Before we close this I just want to state that I was not calling the guy a Liar. I was merely saying I find what he said hard to believe, THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. Also I respect the guys talents. I just find it hard to believe (again that is not calling him a liar) that fishing over twentyfive year the man has never once even tried some kind of smell atractant on any lure. but if he hasn't then great it really is no big deal. but as fisherman we usually try any once to better our sport like trying a new lure how do we know they don't work if we don't try them at least once????? I mean the top gun wasn't out when he first started and he had been catching fish with what he already had why would he try that same thing with the smelly stuff. So with that I hope we can end this at least I know I will say no more about it, we'll just have to agree to disagree. happy fishing and good luck