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Re: lead core vs wire -- rod set up and usage

I tried steel and copper last year, the copper was terrible,it's 3 or 4 times the thickness as stell. The Steel was not much better, hard to tie, kinks, backlash etc, as everyone has mentioned. I spent a fair amount if money trying to set them up and threw it all out, both steel and copper.

They say it is great for f9shing real deep as it has less drag and maybe so, but we dont fish 200 feet in our lakes.

I prefer lead 18#, however many that use steel love it, allt of my western NH buddies use it too, but I think it's old school.

To each his own, the only guys I know that love it were weaned on it and I'm kind of a newbie.

Big John

Re: lead core vs wire -- rod set up and usage

where it shines is on the rod pumper, no stretch, less belly than the leadcore, and more action to the lure when jigged with the pumper. where it lacks is it seems to need heaveir leaders to make up for no stretch and you need to be way more delicate reeling the fish in.

Re: lead core vs wire -- rod set up and usage

HEY B-man is Frenchy still alive?I grew-up in keene my grandparents lived right across the road from Frenchy's mother Antoinette>BARRY

Re: lead core vs wire -- rod set up and usage

Yes he is still alive,sells bait still has a small tackle shop in cellar,ties a few flies.just a good ol boy not many of them left.I did`nt know if you also new Bob Buffum him and I do a lot of fishing has he has a small and I have the big boat,I take him to winni every year on a couple of trips.B-man

Re: lead core vs wire -- rod set up and usage

B-Man if you think of it tell him Barry(Geroge Cummings grandson) said hi.Frenchy was the best ump I ever caught in front of!!!Sorry I highjacked this post BARRY

Re: lead core vs wire -- rod set up and usage

get the stranded stuff prerigged, easiest way to do it and its not to expensive. get the cheapest rod with the softest action you can find, if its too stiff you will break fish off, the wire isnt too forgiving. i would probably change the 12 pound lead over to cortland 333 salmon trolling line, it comes in 50 yard lenghts, seems to present the flies differently than the lead,good early season, early and late in the middle of the season. the 12 pound lead doesnt hold up for me too long and i switched it all back to 18 over the years.

Re: lead core vs wire -- rod set up and usage

Dad and I used to fish Squam with braided stainless steel lines with a large Davis spiner and a smelt.
We even caught some fish. (before sonar and downriggers)
We bounced it off the bottom, and lost less equipment than Big John does now.

Louis
Good luck in the derby.

Re: lead core vs wire -- rod set up and usage

The old fisherman
Dad and I used to fish Squam with braided stainless steel lines with a large Davis spiner and a smelt.
We even caught some fish. (before sonar and downriggers)
We bounced it off the bottom, and lost less equipment than Big John does now.

Louis
Good luck in the derby.


Ouch, some other quotes of late by Lou and other friends:
"We have fished with Big John with multiple lines and have been skunked".
Old Fisherman

"I fished with Big John 8 to 10 hours without a bite"
Salmon Stalker

Many other quotes I can't remember or by who,LOL...

I do loose allot of gear, lol and do get Squamed (skunked) lots of times. But I do catch BIG fish too. My motto, "NO PAIN, NO GAIN" lol.

I can' wait to get Squamned (skunked) or loose gear again, counting the days.

Big John

Re: lead core vs wire -- rod set up and usage

Hey John, I've got a pretty good feeling that a lot of those big fish were caught on the days you were "Squamed" lol

Your friend,
Salty

Re: lead core vs wire -- rod set up and usage

Salty
Hey John, I've got a pretty good feeling that a lot of those big fish were caught on the days you were "Squamed" lol

Your friend,
Salty


Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Big John

Re: lead core vs wire -- rod set up and usage

I use to fish Squam with me Dad back in the early 60'when I was just a youngster... I always thought something was wrong because we spent more time hung up on the bottom than fishing... know I understand why the place is an underwater rockpile !
You need an onboard tackle shop like Big John so you can replace equipment faster than you lose it...