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Re: Lil' Super Star

anon
What happened to the little defensemen from Dexter who went out to the USHL? It was his draft year wasn't it? Did he get drafted?


He was MVP of last year's All-American Prospects Game and will be playing for BC in the fall. Like most small defensemen, he wasn't selected in the NHL draft. That didn't stop Torey Krug.

Re: Lil' Super Star

The last time I checked there was, aaaaaaaah one Tory Krug

Re: Lil' Super Star

anon
The last time I checked there was, aaaaaaaah one Tory Krug


True, very few small players in general make it to the Show. So they should all hang it up and play lax? The kid is really talented and the HHS coaching staff didn't know what to do with him. He was so much better than the other kids on the team that it was never going to work. You should be happy he left (only a Hingham person could have started this thread)--they probably wouldn't have won the Tier 2 state championship 2 years ago if he stayed....

Re: Lil' Super Star

anon
anon
The last time I checked there was, aaaaaaaah one Tory Krug


True, very few small players in general make it to the Show. So they should all hang it up and play lax?
Yes. They can't defend for ***** they're so preoccupied with offensive stats they're constantly leaving the back end exposed, and in doing so they're taking forwards out of their game by having them drop back to the point.

I remember one tournament team a few years ago. Coach loved these little "puck movers." Had like five of them. Problem was, three times out of four they turned the puck over in the D zone. The fourth time they MAYBE got the puck into the offensive zone. Didn't do anything with it, but boy, did this coach love to see them rush the puck end to end!

Re: Lil' Super Star

Anon
anon
anon
The last time I checked there was, aaaaaaaah one Tory Krug


True, very few small players in general make it to the Show. So they should all hang it up and play lax?
Yes. They can't defend for ***** they're so preoccupied with offensive stats they're constantly leaving the back end exposed, and in doing so they're taking forwards out of their game by having them drop back to the point.

I remember one tournament team a few years ago. Coach loved these little "puck movers." Had like five of them. Problem was, three times out of four they turned the puck over in the D zone. The fourth time they MAYBE got the puck into the offensive zone. Didn't do anything with it, but boy, did this coach love to see them rush the puck end to end!


sez dad of the 4th line LW

Re: Lil' Super Star

I do think many youth and high school coaches are now caught up in the four man attack that they see the pros utilizing and they think it translates to the younger game so they force it.

A couple problems with it is you then need 3-4 responsible defensemen to cover for the little misplaced centermen that is now a 'defensemen' and he's skating all over the ice. Most teams have a hard time finding two ultra responsible defensemen let alone 3-4 and what do you do when one of them is in the penalty box? Put the misplaced centermen out on the P.K.?

The other is the little June Bug puck carrying 'defensemen' who floats deep into the offensive zone and into the corners. Well now you have him in essence working the corners at both ends of the ice and it becomes a durability factor as well. If he get's the tar beat out of him all game who is to say it will last?

Also the difference in the pros and high-end college is what they are trying to do by having a four man attack is to move the defense from a zone to man-to-man to create mismatches (big D puck carrier now getting a usually smaller wing or center) to try to stop them. No kiddie team or high school team is able to switch-up offensive schemes (kids don't have all of the skills) so at the younger level you need to teach and maintain position play.

Look what happened when the kid switched high schools the school he left was 1000% better off with kids that played their roles & positions. Bigger, longer reach, responsible defensemen that can move the puck (willingly) will ALWAYS produce better results until the players & systems can get more adaptable. Teach the game and play the game the way it was meant to be played....there's plenty of time later on to introduce blind risk taking and selfishness.

Re: Lil' Super Star

Scout
I do think many youth and high school coaches are now caught up in the four man attack that they see the pros utilizing and they think it translates to the younger game so they force it.

A couple problems with it is you then need 3-4 responsible defensemen to cover for the little misplaced centermen that is now a 'defensemen' and he's skating all over the ice. Most teams have a hard time finding two ultra responsible defensemen let alone 3-4 and what do you do when one of them is in the penalty box? Put the misplaced centermen out on the P.K.?

The other is the little June Bug puck carrying 'defensemen' who floats deep into the offensive zone and into the corners. Well now you have him in essence working the corners at both ends of the ice and it becomes a durability factor as well. If he get's the tar beat out of him all game who is to say it will last?

Also the difference in the pros and high-end college is what they are trying to do by having a four man attack is to move the defense from a zone to man-to-man to create mismatches (big D puck carrier now getting a usually smaller wing or center) to try to stop them. No kiddie team or high school team is able to switch-up offensive schemes (kids don't have all of the skills) so at the younger level you need to teach and maintain position play.

Look what happened when the kid switched high schools the school he left was 1000% better off with kids that played their roles & positions. Bigger, longer reach, responsible defensemen that can move the puck (willingly) will ALWAYS produce better results until the players & systems can get more adaptable. Teach the game and play the game the way it was meant to be played....there's plenty of time later on to introduce blind risk taking and selfishness.
Great post. We'll have to have it taken down. :)

You're exactly correct. The four man attack is being used extensively by teams THAT HAVE THE PERSONNEL. Even at the NHL and AHL level, teams with more traditional players still have a more traditional attack. You have to play to strengths, at any level. So many coaches don't get that.

Re: Lil' Super Star

Blind risk taking and selfishness? Let me guess, your guy is both unskilled, huge and slow?

You're no spring chicken yourself are you? Sound stuck in the 70's. FYI: as much as we all loved him for everything he accomplished and stood for, the game has evolved and there isn't any room for the next Terry O'Reilly.