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Re: Prep School Search

Yes, indisputable that the interview is more important than grades/money etc. Like they all expect a middle school kid to be a polished interviewer. And of course teachers that are asked to write letters of recomendation don't say all flowery things about the kid. Dope.

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anon
Yes, indisputable that the interview is more important than grades/money etc. Like they all expect a middle school kid to be a polished interviewer. And of course teachers that are asked to write letters of recomendation don't say all flowery things about the kid. Dope.
You have no clue. Less than zero. Teachers don't write "letters of recommendation." Each teacher of each core subject has to provide comments on every kid that applies. It's part of the process - the part that you apparently aren't aware exists.

And yes, they DO expect middle school kids to be able to present themselves in an age-appropriate, "polished" way. Pay attention to what your kid is being asked to do - that has become a HUGE part of the middle school curriculum. The top 10% of a public middle school - you know, the ones that actually get accepted - know that.

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Correction. U16 better than D-1 public. U18 better than CC and most privates.

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Oh ok so teachers writing comments is not a letter of recommendation. Jeesh what a dope. All my kids have gone to an ISL prep school Pretty sure I'm aware of the process but thanks for playing.

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anon
Oh ok so teachers writing comments is not a letter of recommendation. Jeesh what a dope. All my kids have gone to an ISL prep school Pretty sure I'm aware of the process but thanks for playing.
All that money, and nobody actually described the process to you. My guess is you write the checks but Mommy did all the paperwork.

Teachers' comments aren't commendations. They don't say anything bad about a kid, but they speak in "code." Johnny works hard, shows a lot of energy, things like that mean he isn't that great a student.

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Yeah ok because teachers have no problem speaking in code about how their student's really not that good of student and the grades they have been given are therefore inflated. That speaks real well of the teacher who while speaking in code has to put their name on the "commendation". They also have no interest in seeing the kid move up and on as well as improving his or her schools stature through matriculation to prep schools. What a dope.

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anon
Yeah ok because teachers have no problem speaking in code about how their student's really not that good of student and the grades they have been given are therefore inflated. That speaks real well of the teacher who while speaking in code has to put their name on the "commendation". They also have no interest in seeing the kid move up and on as well as improving his or her schools stature through matriculation to prep schools. What a dope.
Once again, you are showing how little involvement you have in your kids' education.

The grades aren't inflated, they are somewhat lower when a kid is "not that good of student." What you're missing is, it isn't about the "Three R's" any more. Learning today involves classroom interaction, critical thinking, oral presentation and gaining and demonstrating respect for others. Prep schools don't want the kid that sits in the back of the class playing with a fidget spinner and regurgitate memorized information that "tests well."

The reason a teacher won't commend (yes, "commendation" was intentional and appropriate use of the word) that student's academics on the application is, he/she won't be "improving his or her schools [sic] stature" when they struggle in Prep School. If they behave there the way they behaved in public middle school, it can actually hurt the chances when the next, more deserving kid applies to that same school.

But, keep posting. Love to see people that don't know when to keep their misspelled words to themselves.

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Yes because all kids that have good grades, are good athletes, score well on placement tests could just end up sitting in the back of the classroom playing with themselves. The SSAT is so easy to just regurgitate memorized information that it takes teachers speaking in "code" to direct admissions offices from making bad decisions. OK Beavis, you win.

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I agree with the poster who thinks the "code talking" allegation is hyperbole. Truly professional teachers, counselors, administrators, etc. have integrity and standards. They will not overstate or understate their genuine assessment of a student applicant or athlete. To do so only undermines credibility and professional reputation.

Moreover, if it were true, as the post seem to suggest, that the teacher comments are all sugar-coated, obligatory fluff with some subtle texture mixed in, amounting to "code talking", then why even bother making everyone go through the silly kabuki dance? This makes a mockery of the process!

I submit that what you describe as talking in code is really just how educated professionals communicate. The teachers expect any reader/user to be able to interpret the plain meaning of the multi-syllable, big words written.

Just because YOU need a dictionary, thesaurus, and google does not mean the teachers are talking code!

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There's some truth to the code talking. The teacher has to be careful because what he or she writes is going to become public knowledge. If they come right out and say "this kid is a moron, and a jerk on top of that", it's not the greatest career move as the parents, aka taxpayers, aren't going to take that well and could become serious thorns in the side of that teacher and his/her career.

The phrase "damming(sic) with faint praise" is very applicable here. If a teacher likes and respects a student, they're going to be happy for them to be getting an opportunity at prep school, and will go above and beyond on the recommendation. Anything less than that - "works hard, able, solid student" - might as well be a "meh, whatever, I don't care one way or the other, the kid's ok but won't be adding anything special to your school", because that's how it's read in the admissions office.

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Anon
There's some truth to the code talking. The teacher has to be careful because what he or she writes is going to become public knowledge. If they come right out and say "this kid is a moron, and a jerk on top of that", it's not the greatest career move as the parents, aka taxpayers, aren't going to take that well and could become serious thorns in the side of that teacher and his/her career.

The phrase "damming(sic) with faint praise" is very applicable here. If a teacher likes and respects a student, they're going to be happy for them to be getting an opportunity at prep school, and will go above and beyond on the recommendation. Anything less than that - "works hard, able, solid student" - might as well be a "meh, whatever, I don't care one way or the other, the kid's ok but won't be adding anything special to your school", because that's how it's read in the admissions office.
Finally. Thank you.

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Right.... kind of like the code for a blind date who has "a good personality" (lol). When everyone understands it, it is not really a code.

I think what everyone understands is that there is recommendation "inflation" just like there is grade "inflation".

Similarly when you are a dinner guest, and you are asked, "how was the meal?". When everyone knows how to interpret the answer, it is not a code!

Re: Prep School Search

anon
Starting the search, any advice?
Unless your son is really smart, is a potential D1 player (according to someone other than you) and you have a lot of money, it's a long shot.