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Re: Framingham / Hingham

Game reminded me of a better version of a Town Hockey midget game. Maybe it was me being away from high school hockey for a while but kids just blowing-up other kids with kamikaze checks with no regard for taking penalties and a lot of grabbing and slashing. I can't imagine either of these teams going far but it is still early.

Re: Framingham / Hingham

anon
Game reminded me of a better version of a Town Hockey midget game. Maybe it was me being away from high school hockey for a while but kids just blowing-up other kids with kamikaze checks with no regard for taking penalties and a lot of grabbing and slashing. I can't imagine either of these teams going far but it is still early.
Lets put it bluntly - this was a bad hockey game. Granted it was first game of season but there was very little skill and playmaking. If this is what the best the public schools are offering then its going to be a long year. Hingham was bigger and more physical. Framingham showed me nothing at all. High school hockey is waaaaaaaaaaay down is what I took away from watching this game.

Pilgrim skating rink is an absolute dump. Benches are right next to each other with no divider. Stands are filthy. Boards are a hazard - nothing like stopping play mid game since the Zamboni doors swung open after a check. There are no lines on the ice. For Hingham thinking they are some high end program their facilities rival hockeytown in Saugus.

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I once heard the guy that runs Pilgrim say it was a "state of the art facility." I think he was serious.

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So if the premier public school hockey teams are horrible - what are the options. $40k-$50k at a prep school? $15-25k at a CC school? What if you have 3 kids - looking at $100-500k investment for high school hockey? Yes, I know the elite kids get the prep $$$$, but what about the kids that mature late and develop at 16? If public high school hockey is horribe, and you dont have the $$$ for prep - I guess you hang them up and focus on another sport?

Re: Framingham / Hingham

anon
So if the premier public school hockey teams are horrible - what are the options. $40k-$50k at a prep school? $15-25k at a CC school? What if you have 3 kids - looking at $100-500k investment for high school hockey? Yes, I know the elite kids get the prep $$$$, but what about the kids that mature late and develop at 16? If public high school hockey is horribe, and you dont have the $$$ for prep - I guess you hang them up and focus on another sport?
What are the options? You have your kid stay and play at his public school and enjoy playing in front of friends and family. Enough about kids being late developers, etc. If he plays out of his mind at a public school he will be found and moved onto a prep. High school hockey is the pinnacle for 98% of hockey players - let them enjoy it. If the kid scores 50 goals he will get looks but people really need to stop chasing that golden carrot and enjoy where they are.

Re: Framingham / Hingham

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So if the premier public school hockey teams are horrible - what are the options. $40k-$50k at a prep school? $15-25k at a CC school? What if you have 3 kids - looking at $100-500k investment for high school hockey? Yes, I know the elite kids get the prep $$$$, but what about the kids that mature late and develop at 16? If public high school hockey is horribe, and you dont have the $$$ for prep - I guess you hang them up and focus on another sport?
What are the options? You have your kid stay and play at his public school and enjoy playing in front of friends and family. Enough about kids being late developers, etc. If he plays out of his mind at a public school he will be found and moved onto a prep. High school hockey is the pinnacle for 98% of hockey players - let them enjoy it. If the kid scores 50 goals he will get looks but people really need to stop chasing that golden carrot and enjoy where they are.
Thanks, Gramps. The exact same argument can be made for Town youth hockey. How's that working out?

The lower cost option to still play good hockey is full season. That, too, will get watered down if Public HS hockey is as bad as fast as it seems to now trending, no different than "Elite" youth hockey, but does your kid want to be the last decent player on the team, turning the lights out?

So, instead of listening to Grams, sitting in his Barcalounger with his letterman sweater on, ask your kid, what does HE want out of his HS hockey experience?

My kid said he just wants to play the best hockey he is capable of, that he could care less about who comes to see him play aside from his family and closest friends. Said he'd rather be middle of the pack on his full season team than the best kid on his public HS team.

Re: Framingham / Hingham

anon
anon
anon
So if the premier public school hockey teams are horrible - what are the options. \$40k-\$50k at a prep school? \$15-25k at a CC school? What if you have 3 kids - looking at \$100-500k investment for high school hockey? Yes, I know the elite kids get the prep \$\$\$\$, but what about the kids that mature late and develop at 16? If public high school hockey is horribe, and you dont have the \$\$\$ for prep - I guess you hang them up and focus on another sport?
What are the options? You have your kid stay and play at his public school and enjoy playing in front of friends and family. Enough about kids being late developers, etc. If he plays out of his mind at a public school he will be found and moved onto a prep. High school hockey is the pinnacle for 98% of hockey players - let them enjoy it. If the kid scores 50 goals he will get looks but people really need to stop chasing that golden carrot and enjoy where they are.
Thanks, Gramps. The exact same argument can be made for Town youth hockey. How's that working out?

The lower cost option to still play good hockey is full season. That, too, will get watered down if Public HS hockey is as bad as fast as it seems to now trending, no different than "Elite" youth hockey, but does your kid want to be the last decent player on the team, turning the lights out?

So, instead of listening to Grams, sitting in his Barcalounger with his letterman sweater on, ask your kid, what does HE want out of his HS hockey experience?

My kid said he just wants to play the best hockey he is capable of, that he could care less about who comes to see him play aside from his family and closest friends. Said he'd rather be middle of the pack on his full season team than the best kid on his public HS team.
Full season? You mean the wasteland of disgruntled kids/parents who think they were too good to play high school or since the high school coach is an idiot for not seeing his awesomeness that he had to leave and play full season? Full season around these parts is nothing but a scam and money maker. Good luck paying all that $$ and having your kid miss school all the time to travel on crappy buses to play crappy hockey in front of 5 people. At least in high school hockey you arent paying for crap hockey and there are people in the stands.

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So if the premier public school hockey teams are horrible - what are the options. \\$40k-\\$50k at a prep school? \\$15-25k at a CC school? What if you have 3 kids - looking at \\$100-500k investment for high school hockey? Yes, I know the elite kids get the prep \\$\\$\\$\\$, but what about the kids that mature late and develop at 16? If public high school hockey is horribe, and you dont have the \\$\\$\\$ for prep - I guess you hang them up and focus on another sport?
What are the options? You have your kid stay and play at his public school and enjoy playing in front of friends and family. Enough about kids being late developers, etc. If he plays out of his mind at a public school he will be found and moved onto a prep. High school hockey is the pinnacle for 98% of hockey players - let them enjoy it. If the kid scores 50 goals he will get looks but people really need to stop chasing that golden carrot and enjoy where they are.
Thanks, Gramps. The exact same argument can be made for Town youth hockey. How's that working out?

The lower cost option to still play good hockey is full season. That, too, will get watered down if Public HS hockey is as bad as fast as it seems to now trending, no different than "Elite" youth hockey, but does your kid want to be the last decent player on the team, turning the lights out?

So, instead of listening to Grams, sitting in his Barcalounger with his letterman sweater on, ask your kid, what does HE want out of his HS hockey experience?

My kid said he just wants to play the best hockey he is capable of, that he could care less about who comes to see him play aside from his family and closest friends. Said he'd rather be middle of the pack on his full season team than the best kid on his public HS team.
Full season? You mean the wasteland of disgruntled kids/parents who think they were too good to play high school or since the high school coach is an idiot for not seeing his awesomeness that he had to leave and play full season? Full season around these parts is nothing but a scam and money maker. Good luck paying all that $$ and having your kid miss school all the time to travel on crappy buses to play crappy hockey in front of 5 people. At least in high school hockey you arent paying for crap hockey and there are people in the stands.
I don't even KNOW of any full season teams where that is the experience. It isn't the T1EHL experience, it isn't the EHL experience, and it isn't the USPHL experience. For example, he has missed two half days of school so far this season. I think last season he missed four. Travel experiences have been nothing but positive - charter coach buses or flying, Marriott or equivalent hotels. And, I already said that the number of fans doesn't matter to him - unless you're telling me he SHOULD care, because you know better?

So, please share, what team(s) do you think that is the experience kids are having?

Short of that, educate yourself so you have an informed opinion.

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Tier 1 = "crappy hockey in front of 5 people"?

Very informed/insightful post. MOron.

Re: Framingham / Hingham

anon
anon
anon
So if the premier public school hockey teams are horrible - what are the options. \$40k-\$50k at a prep school? \$15-25k at a CC school? What if you have 3 kids - looking at \$100-500k investment for high school hockey? Yes, I know the elite kids get the prep \$\$\$\$, but what about the kids that mature late and develop at 16? If public high school hockey is horribe, and you dont have the \$\$\$ for prep - I guess you hang them up and focus on another sport?
What are the options? You have your kid stay and play at his public school and enjoy playing in front of friends and family. Enough about kids being late developers, etc. If he plays out of his mind at a public school he will be found and moved onto a prep. High school hockey is the pinnacle for 98% of hockey players - let them enjoy it. If the kid scores 50 goals he will get looks but people really need to stop chasing that golden carrot and enjoy where they are.
Thanks, Gramps. The exact same argument can be made for Town youth hockey. How's that working out?

The lower cost option to still play good hockey is full season. That, too, will get watered down if Public HS hockey is as bad as fast as it seems to now trending, no different than "Elite" youth hockey, but does your kid want to be the last decent player on the team, turning the lights out?

So, instead of listening to Grams, sitting in his Barcalounger with his letterman sweater on, ask your kid, what does HE want out of his HS hockey experience?

My kid said he just wants to play the best hockey he is capable of, that he could care less about who comes to see him play aside from his family and closest friends. Said he'd rather be middle of the pack on his full season team than the best kid on his public HS team.
You don't have to insult the guy. So your kid is playing full season instead of high school so that he can play at the highest level possible. That's admirable, but why? Presumably so he can position himself for college hockey. Well, most kids (and many very good players) will not be playing college hockey, so HS hockey is the destination after the youth hockey journey. These kids should stay with their high school program and enjoy the ride. No need to look down on that path. In fact, we should encourage it. Unless you are a plant for an owner of a FS team.

Re: Framingham / Hingham

anon
So if the premier public school hockey teams are horrible - what are the options. $40k-$50k at a prep school? $15-25k at a CC school? What if you have 3 kids - looking at $100-500k investment for high school hockey? Yes, I know the elite kids get the prep $$$$, but what about the kids that mature late and develop at 16? If public high school hockey is horribe, and you dont have the $$$ for prep - I guess you hang them up and focus on another sport?
That is exactly how/why lacrosse is taking off. No huge annual bill, equipment is cheap and doesn't wear out, no hugely expensive club teams, more college programs with more roster spots, no two years of juniors and about 15 other good money saving reasons to dump hockey. And oh, fewer concussions and assorted medical bills and oh, no freezing your tush off sitting indoors in an ice box and oh....and oh....and oh....

Re: Framingham / Hingham

anon
I once heard the guy that runs Pilgrim say it was a "state of the art facility." I think he was serious.
You have to get to Cape Cod before you find a decent youth hockey rink on the south shore.

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Framingham made it to D1 finals last year and they were bad....it's only getting worse!

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Sometimes the roster turns over in high school hockey