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Re: Proof of the pudding is in the eating

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Does the NCDC put forth any effort to get its players D1 commitments? From the start of the season, NCDC\\\'s eleven teams combined for a mere four (4) D1 commits. The NAHL announced four D1 commits last week alone.

What is NCDC\\\'s value proposition? Is it sustainable?

Time to reorganize.
You can reorganize and rename all you want but you have to have the players. Players earn D1 opportunities, not leagues. D1 spots are more competetive than ever with all of the players they are now recruiting from Canada and Europe. The pyramid gets tighter and tighter. A smarter play for this league is to focus on northeast D3 placements. Taking on T1 and the USHL just isn\'t a winning strategy.
The USPHL/NCDC wouldn't last long selling itself as the "one path" to a chance at a Northeast D3 commitment.

No one said "one path". There is more than one path to hockey at any level.

Re: Proof of the pudding is in the eating

Yeah because the honest path to D-3 hockey includes high school hockey or Midget hockey, any junior league, college club hockey and just about anything else you can think of.

Re: Proof of the pudding is in the eating

anon
Yeah because the honest path to D-3 hockey includes high school hockey or Midget hockey, any junior league, college club hockey and just about anything else you can think of.
You are right. There are many equally good alternatives besides NCDC to get to D3. But NCDC marketed itself as "one path" to college hockey. NCDC's record thus far is for all intents and purposes, that means D3 or below. But yes, NCDC competes with high school, midget and all other junior leagues for D3 roster spots.

The question is whether NCDC can continue if equally good alternatives present themselves in high school midget and other junior leagues. Can it justify its expense to those that pay to support it.

Re: Proof of the pudding is in the eating

The anti-NCDC contingent is becoming as boring as the endless, pointless EHF-E9 debate on the Kiddie Boards.

Re: Proof of the pudding is in the eating

Go watch a Generals game, then go watch a Kings/Bandits/Whoever NCDC game. Sorry folks, not even close. Bash BA and Generals all you want, much better talent, much better development plan/path. A bunch of D1 commits already, all have high-end D3 offers but are waiting for the real D1 offer to come through. Very different compared to the USPHL where kids are jumping on low end D3 offers early in the season. A lot of 99’s and 00’s vs 97’s and 98’s still chasing the dream.

Hey EHF daddy, let it go, end result is those leagues are not all that.

Re: Proof of the pudding is in the eating

Anon
Go watch a Generals game, then go watch a Kings/Bandits/Whoever NCDC game. Sorry folks, not even close. Bash BA and Generals all you want, much better talent, much better development plan/path. A bunch of D1 commits already, all have high-end D3 offers but are waiting for the real D1 offer to come through. Very different compared to the USPHL where kids are jumping on low end D3 offers early in the season. A lot of 99’s and 00’s vs 97’s and 98’s still chasing the dream.

Hey EHF daddy, let it go, end result is those leagues are not all that.
I have not seen one person say that NCDC is the equal of NAHL in its first year of existence. That doesn't mean NCDC is a negative. It isn't.

BTW, do a search on the posts about the Generals from, like, this summer. All the D Board geniuses said they would be folding.

But, you can keep TL and his playing favorites. I'll pass.

Re: Proof of the pudding is in the eating

Your kid is clearly an EHF disciple that woke up one day when he was 16 and realized that him being "elite" all those years meant nothing.

Sorry your kid got cut from the Generals.

Re: Proof of the pudding is in the eating

Anon
Your kid is clearly an EHF disciple that woke up one day when he was 16 and realized that him being "elite" all those years meant nothing.

Sorry your kid got cut from the Generals.
Problem is much bigger than one kid with sour grapes for not making a legit USA Hockey JR league team.

NCDC took a huge risk shunning USA Hockey. USA Hockey's counter punch may be putting the shun on NCDC. NCAA D1 depends too much on USA Hockey's USHL and NAHL players to let rogue NCDC upset that apple cart. From the looks of NCDC's in season commits, one could think the NCAA D1 shun is on for players foolish enough, like NCDC, to shun Big Brother USA Hockey.

NCDC has to make peace with USA Hockey, and for the sake of its players, it better do it soon.

Re: Proof of the pudding is in the eating

I was at both Titans- Generals games last weekend. That is what real junior hockey is. The Generals really made it special for the players with a top-notch presentation. The stands were packed and scouts were practically hanging off the rafters. Few overage players. Fast and physical play all game long. Take in a Generals game and then drive up 128 to Foxboro and see the difference.

Re: Proof of the pudding is in the eating

PG
I was at both Titans- Generals games last weekend. That is what real junior hockey is. The Generals really made it special for the players with a top-notch presentation. The stands were packed and scouts were practically hanging off the rafters. Few overage players. Fast and physical play all game long. Take in a Generals game and then drive up 128 to Foxboro and see the difference.
Thanks, JL. BTW, I know you are used to driving up and down 24, but that isn't 128 south of the Split.

Re: Proof of the pudding is in the eating

For the NCDCers, is the plan to rejoin USA Hockey next season? Any hints on direction from the front office?

Re: Proof of the pudding is in the eating

anon
For the NCDCers, is the plan to rejoin USA Hockey next season? Any hints on direction from the front office?
It isn't that they didn't join, USA Hockey refused to grant Tier II status because of the funding model. That isn't going to change, so NCDC has no choice but to stay the course.

I also haven't heard any of the "taxed" parents complaining, though. They don't even know they're being charged extra.

But, I sincerely doubt USA Hockey is going to acknowledge that.