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Re: When to jump to Prep

Here's some reliable info. Though it would make things much easier for families there is zero chance of financial aid being estimated before applying.In fact you get a financial aid package with the kid's acceptance letter and not before.What you're asking makes perfect sense but they just don't do that.

Re: When to jump to Prep

Kind of late if you ask me, especially if its just for hockey reasons.

Re: When to jump to Prep

Anon
Here's some reliable info. Though it would make things much easier for families there is zero chance of financial aid being estimated before applying.In fact you get a financial aid package with the kid's acceptance letter and not before.What you're asking makes perfect sense but they just don't do that.
Here's another reality. I'ts going to be less than you think., and probably less than you need. So after bragging for six months that your kid is being "recruited" he will be back with his public HS classmates.

Re: When to jump to Prep

Go to Harvard u website and then admissions. They have a decent calculator that may help give an idea. Like the others said, set low expectations.

Re: When to jump to Prep

Anon
Go to Harvard u website and then admissions. They have a decent calculator that may help give an idea. Like the others said, set low expectations.
Ummm, that's college, and the poster is asking about Prep school.

Duh.

Don't every post anything containing the work "Harvard" ever again. You're ruining their good name.

Re: When to jump to Prep

Are ISL schools financial assistance packages to totally needs based or do some of the better players get a discount on tuition regardless of family income?

Re: When to jump to Prep

I wouldn't make the jump unless the Prep coaches are approaching him.

Re: When to jump to Prep

Anon
I wouldn't make the jump unless the Prep coaches are approaching him.
^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^

Re: When to jump to Prep

If your son is not playing in the top divisions of the fall tournament season then you are going to have to work very hard to get attention. Once October comes, they get locked in on their upcoming season. Start emailing now!

Re: When to jump to Prep

anon
If your son is not playing in the top divisions of the fall tournament season then you are going to have to work very hard to get attention. Once October comes, they get locked in on their upcoming season. Start emailing now!
Absolutely not true.

The Head Coach has to devote a huge chunk of his time meeting with parents and kids during on-campus visits and revisits pretty much from now through mid-April. Even the ones he isn't interested in. If you ever saw the number of kids that list hockey as their extracurricular activity, you'd know it's several multiples of who will actually play for the team. They just don't know that yet. The coaching staff plays a huge role in recruiting those kids as students.

Most top Prep schools also have an assistant coach whose primary function is to scout talent. They will be wherever and whenever high level hockey is being played. The one at our school moved on to scout full time for an NHL team. It wasn't for his coaching skills.

Re: When to jump to Prep

It's obvious that none of you on this board had kids that attended prep schools. I had 2 both currently at NESCAC schools playing hockey. Our income was 140,000 and we paid 2,500 for one and 6,000 for the other. If your kid is being recruited by a coach that really wants him then they will find the financial aid that you are looking for. If not then they tell you there is no money. Oh and grades do matter.

Re: When to jump to Prep

Well, clearly a $140,000 salary warrants financial aid. Take taxes off the top and your down to about $85,000 in net income for schools that cost $50-60K per year - so you needed financial assistance. I thinking about the family that makes $300,000, would they get any tuition reduction if the school really wanted him?

Re: When to jump to Prep

ISL schools are need based. Other non ISL schools can offer “other assistance”. Annual $300 K income can qualify for aid. Some school web sites will tell as such. Go to the school site. It is true however that your grades do count. If your son is a C student then ISL would be a very long reach. He would need to be a B plus student at least. It is also true that your aid package will only come with the acceptance package You can obviously go back and negotiate it but if you can negotiate down don’t expect a large change. Finally, your best chances to get in is as a repeat freshman or as a true freshman. That class has the most spots available. Sophomore and junior classes have less spots available. Remember as much as the hockey coach wants you the football team and soccer team want players too. Those coaches will be pushing for those players which is where grades are most important and amount of financial aid given. These schools do want full pay tuitions over large financial aid awards No matter what grade you transfer in with the exception of true freshman expect to repeat

Good luck. Lots of information on each schools web site

Re: When to jump to Prep

OP here, we have scheduled 4 school visits for next month and luckily each coach knew of him when we talked, I'm hoping that's a plus? We are excited and nervous for the application process because ultimately it will come down to the money.

Re: When to jump to Prep

anon
OP here, we have scheduled 4 school visits for next month and luckily each coach knew of him when we talked, I'm hoping that's a plus? We are excited and nervous for the application process because ultimately it will come down to the money.
Meaning, you are interested in giving your child the advantages of a Prep School education, but only if it isn't inconvenient?

I know lots of families that forego vacations, new cars, etc. to make up the difference between cost and what aid provides. Mostly non-athletes, which is interesting. It seems parents of athletes expect to be able to ride their kids' backs.

No pressure, son!

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Here's one that makes me laugh. Locale prep school that pulls in some of the better local high school hockey players and without exception every hockey player repeated a grade there. Two kids this year moved over to the prep school and both were pretty much the bottom 20% of their respective classes. One was a gender-bender theater boy and the other plays baseball and guess what? Neither was asked to repeat a grade. Hmmm, are the hockey coaches that good at assessing a kid's academic ability or what?

Re: When to jump to Prep

anon
anon
OP here, we have scheduled 4 school visits for next month and luckily each coach knew of him when we talked, I'm hoping that's a plus? We are excited and nervous for the application process because ultimately it will come down to the money.
Meaning, you are interested in giving your child the advantages of a Prep School education, but only if it isn't inconvenient?

I know lots of families that forego vacations, new cars, etc. to make up the difference between cost and what aid provides. Mostly non-athletes, which is interesting. It seems parents of athletes expect to be able to ride their kids' backs.

No pressure, son!
Meaning, as long as we can afford it without turning a family of 5 completely upside down, then yes!

Re: When to jump to Prep

My advice...

If your kid was good enough to play at ISL level you would know by know. I don't say that to be mean, just realty.

Best model is...

9th grade and 10th grade at a Catholic Prep School

then - YOU will know how good your player is and you can either stay or if they are very good

Go to ISL school and repeat 10th grade.


Gives you options.

Re: When to jump to Prep

anon
My advice...

If your kid was good enough to play at ISL level you would know by know. I don't say that to be mean, just realty.

Best model is...

9th grade and 10th grade at a Catholic Prep School

then - YOU will know how good your player is and you can either stay or if they are very good

Go to ISL school and repeat 10th grade.


Gives you options.

I know of 3 players from our D-I HS teams who have gone on to prep, both ISL and non ISL and their parents marketed the heck out of them to coaches during their junior seasons. As parents, unless you have a background in scouting, you are probably the worst judges of talent.

Re: When to jump to Prep

If you are making this on a hockey decision, let him be successful where he is and then "attempt" to jump to USHL or NAHL. Prep does not guarantee anything when it comes to hockey, however, he will get an amazing experience and education, that can't be disputed.