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During the 3rd period, John Bucciograss (probably spelled wrong) made an observations that there wasn't one player on the UMass roster from Massachusetts that was dressed for last nights game. They do have a couple players from Mass on the roster but typically don't play much. Mean while BC has 8 players that reside in MA, BU 7, NU 12. Compare that to the State of Minnesota, UMD, UM, and St. Cloud rosters are primarily from Minnesota, interesting though Minnesota St. only has about 7 players on their roster from Minn. Looks like development working well in Mass :grimacing:
We all know the Mass model is broken but as long as there is money to be made it won’t change around here. I’ve seen more tryout notices from middle of the road club teams this year than ever before.
Ever look at a map and compare the percapita distribution of D1 programs? Kind of shallow to state that the makeup of rosters is meaningful in any way. If your a MN kid and you want to play locally you have 5 choices. In MA you have 10 in state and another 10 just across the state lines but closer together than the MN schools so obviously the rosters will have a different makeup. Umass has never recruited in state. Maybe that will change now but kids in the Boston area worth recruiting would rather play at the hockey east schools or harvard.
Maybe they're doing that UMass kid a favor by dumping his resume. He got to play college hockey, ends up in a trade making more money than kids from the esteemed academic institutions you list + everybody is happy.
5-6 years ago when UMass hockey was really terrible and before the coaching change the lack of Mass kids was always a big DBoard topic. And the fact the old regime had scouts all over Europe, Canada and the eastern bloc looking for players when many Mass kids not only could have helped, but their parents had been supporting the school for decades by paying taxes in state. UMN for years had a policy that they could only roster one non-Minnesotan...ONE! Really the Mass hockey kids dream of playing in and winning the Beanpot and UMass isn't part of that.
I don't think I'd call BC/BU/NU are 'all far better academic institutions.' Yeah on average but the difference is getting smaller than old timers think.
I'll play on any team that will take me
So the overall impression I'm getting from parents here on why there are no Mass players playing for UMass, is that the school isn't good enough academically for their little bender. Sorry folks, those guys playing for BC, BU, and even NU, aren't playing there for the academics either. Nice try though.
My take having been through this from a hiring side, a full tuition paying parent at a wide range of schools.
Locally the funny one is the before Flutie (BF) and for a decade or so after, BC grads who walk around like they attended an Ivy caliber institution when back then it was basically Marquette University or Xavier or a Loyola - nice but no top 50 school. Now it's a slightly better than average school but not a great academic institution.
NU it's all about the internships and the professional programs - not deep in high thought but effective in getting a kid through and getting a kid a career. Not high powered academics but professional career path.
BU, it's whatever you make it. Typical wide ranging school where you can get through and keep going if that's your interest.
UMass - old people don't know it but certain programs are highly regarded and as a whole it's moving up. Business or engineering student from NU or UMass? Toss-up today
No skin in this game, but UMass is a highly regarded State University compared to the same in other States. Remember, they have a Medical School too
BC admitted class of 2025 has an AVERAGE SAT of 1495.
Harvard is the reach school
BC and BU are the nice to be admitted schools
NU is the safety school.
Then there's UMass.
Here you go: US News -
Harvard at # 2
BC at #35
BU at #42
NU at #49