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So what you're saying is maybe this kid should have just played club hockey at some O.K. university?

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Correct. The problems lies in there being too many 'junior' leagues feeding this stupidity, too many delusional parents and there is no maximum age for college hockey players. All this needs to be fixed but the money is too good.

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80% of D-3 is just glorified club. The students on campus don't even realize its there and the hockey is all the last guys who still care.

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There is nothing wrong with getting a good education from St. Mary's in Minnesota (or another school like that). It's one of the Minnesota private schools that plays in the MIAC. Winona, MN is a nice town nestled along the Wisconsin border, a fun college town with Winona State University (NCAA D2, NSIC) located there too. A degree from that school and being a varsity hockey player there will open up doors for this kid in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area once he graduates. That network of Minnesota private school alums stick together.

It would not shock me one bit if his financial package included a sizeable amount of grant money. While these schools don't give out athletic scholarships they are often well endowed and the financial packages they can put together make them as/or more affordable than a state school, sometimes even tuition free. Keep in mind, out-of-state tuition at a Big Ten school runs about $35-$40k per year while in-state will still run you about $20k.

The amazing part to me is that this kid put up some points in the NAHL and still got shuffled down to the NA3 and is now going to play NCAA D3 hockey. It just shows you how hard it is and how tough the competition is once you get up to those levels of play.

I realize this is an east coast board so you might not understand how things work in the Midwest. This kid will be just fine and will do well for himself in life if he stays on the right path and works hard.

And no, I am not the kid's mom or dad, just someone who can offer some perspective.

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Anon
There is nothing wrong with getting a good education from St. Mary's in Minnesota (or another school like that). It's one of the Minnesota private schools that plays in the MIAC. Winona, MN is a nice town nestled along the Wisconsin border, a fun college town with Winona State University (NCAA D2, NSIC) located there too. A degree from that school and being a varsity hockey player there will open up doors for this kid in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area once he graduates. That network of Minnesota private school alums stick together.

It would not shock me one bit if his financial package included a sizeable amount of grant money. While these schools don't give out athletic scholarships they are often well endowed and the financial packages they can put together make them as/or more affordable than a state school, sometimes even tuition free. Keep in mind, out-of-state tuition at a Big Ten school runs about $35-$40k per year while in-state will still run you about $20k.

The amazing part to me is that this kid put up some points in the NAHL and still got shuffled down to the NA3 and is now going to play NCAA D3 hockey. It just shows you how hard it is and how tough the competition is once you get up to those levels of play.

I realize this is an east coast board so you might not understand how things work in the Midwest. This kid will be just fine and will do well for himself in life if he stays on the right path and works hard.

And no, I am not the kid's mom or dad, just someone who can offer some perspective.
When you can get in-state tuition for 10K-14K and some of the best universities in the country (WI, MN) there is no need to go to a third rate university in the Midwest. I agree, club hockey sounds like a good choice however a D-3 kid would have a hard time making club hockey in MN or WI so it sounds more like an intramural team for this guy.

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12:02 (and others) try to make the point that 2 years of Juniors and even high-level Juniors experience isn't a guaranteed pathway to good college hockey and a coveted degree. I get it.

But don't manipulate the facts in this story.

Yes the kid had 60+ points in 34 NA3HL games - but the NAHL numbers tell more of the story - "....In seven NAHL games, Lindauer had one point."

It's very likely that the soon-to-be over-ager was not getting any legitimate looks from NAHL teams for 2018-19 and he made the decision that playing college hockey was important to him.....hence the move to St. Mary's.

There are going to be hundreds of kids who do the same. Maybe they get a taste of minimal or quasi-academics during their time in Juniors, and realize that going to a challenging/top school is not for them. Nor is going to a huge state university and fighting to make the club team.

To each their own.

But let's not confuse his situation with other NAHL kids who are well below 19 and producing .5+ PPG.

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anon
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So sending your kid to one of those D-III academic powerhouses like SNHU or UMass-Dartmouth is your idea of preparing your kid for life after college then good luck to you. I\\\'m with the other guy, pick a great school - not one of your prep school / D-III schools up in the woods no one outside of New England has ever heard of - and let the kid play for fun. No crime in that.
SNHU is D-II
SNHU is a bad school & worse at hockey.
Hahahaha! An online college has D-2 hockey?

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Let's see, two years of juniors, D-3 at a little no name school or good known school at 18 and club hockey. As a parent it's a no brainer.

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I don't disagree. I only hope that if and when my kid is faced with that decision, I have the balls to let him make it on his own.

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Anon
I don't disagree. I only hope that if and when my kid is faced with that decision, I have the balls to let him make it on his own.
This is hard for most parents to do as they have sunk a tremendous amount of time and money into their kid's hockey career over the years and to then have it come to an end playing club is unpalatable to most. Not saying this is my view. Not to mention that just a few years prior many of these kids were the stars of their elite teams, daddy boasting at the office, mom trumpeting her little studs accomplishments around the rink. Big talk of playing college hockey and now, .... meh.