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What is going on with these 2 “powerhouse” teams? Did BU make a mistake with new coach? Is it time for a change at BC?
Recruiting. It all comes down to recruiting. Over the past few years players have realized there are other viable options that really want them.
Nothing better then attending a school that truly wants you.
NL at PC has done a great job recruiting. The proof is their #3 ranking this year.
Both schools have been out in front of the process of providing early commitments to 14 year olds in the Battle For Comm Ave, which really exploded with the 2000 birth year.
JW committed to BU 10/2/14 and TJW committed to BC 10/12/14. And, unlike when they did the same for Hanifin 10/24/11 and Eichel 10/29/12, these players may never be what they were projecting as. Both in part due to injuries.
They are also schools that tend to bring a lot of teenaged players in, instead of extending them in Juniors. BU shows 13 players under 20 and BC has 9. PC and UMD have 5. SCS has 4.
OW committed to BC this year and he only has 1 goal. It just shows that college hockey is tough and true freshmen like OW and JW get a lot of ice time and they will do well as the season progresses. Also agree that other programs have done a great job. NL at Prov has done a great job and AOC will have some growing pains at BU. BU is a very young team with only 2 seniors, plus keep in mind they lost a couple key guys to the NHL while BC returned their entire team. Its still early in the season, but will be interesting to see how it plays out.
Friends and family hurting both of them....both have alums kids that don’t belong.
B.C. needs a change at helm.....
Wait? What? What’s wrong with true freshman (like just about every other student and athletes in college) ? Most 21 year olds are graduating or close to it and the hockey players are freshman at 21, seems very unnatural!
The change to 21 year old freshmen and 24-25 year old seniors has taken the fun out of watching college hockey. It's just another professional minor league.
AOC was BU's chief recruiter. His team are his kids. He knows what he has, they will come around. Both BC & BU were hurt by recruiting too well and in past years loosing too many players to the NHL.
And I agree with the concept of playing true freshmen, or maybe one year of juniors. The idea of 21 year old freshmen is crazy.
Probably quite a bit of truth to what you are saying but I wouldn't underestimate the loss of GB from the coaching staff in this equation.
Never understood the love he got. Play against a public high school a few years back and you wouldn't even know at the time he was this sought after kid. And it's not like forwards are late bloomers like Dmen. Always wondered what I missed but now the rest of hockey is wondering what they missed. It's good to be early & right.
Providence is the beast of the east until Leeman moves on. They are loaded.
Recruiting takes more work than assembling the college version of the 'friends & family plan.' Sad what BC has become. A pile of undersized legacy kids. It's time to move on from that lazy model.
Lost to Bentley today. Lost a recruit last week, Wahlstrom thinking of heading back to USHL or OHL.
York old and tired, daddy coach on bench. Not the recipe for success.
Bottom line, AOC is not ready to be a head coach and JY needs to prob retire. Other HE schools are doing a great job. AOC has changed lines every single game that I have watched and looking at the line chart. Went to both BU/BC games this past weekend and all the freshman that played belonged on the ice. You people can sit at your computers and be as jealous as you want, its a long 4 years and I am sure they all will be just fine. OW may move on, but that's his choice, the kid kid is still a 1st round pick and hell of a player. Look at Prov, they also have a 1st rounder with 1 point. There have been plenty of great pros that did not have great freshman years, its a big transition. IMO BU will probably struggle more as AOC is over his heard and PP will probably get more involved as he has more experience. Everyone is allowed to have growing pains.
The mighty have fallen. Hockey East (at one time arguably the best conference in college hockey) has seen better days. They have 7 teams in bottom 20. Two of those teams are bottom 10 with Merrimack being the worst. Hearing Merrimack will drop to Div. 3 in 19/20 where they belong. Need strong program to replace them.
Merrimack can't drop to D3 at this point. They are a D2 school so hockey can either play up at D1 or struggle like the handful of remaining D2 programs.
just looked up merrimack OUCH. will be interesting to see what happens with them.
Hey, we beat both BU and BC this year, that's a huge accomplishment. Also, the new coach will do a great job with this group of young men. I am personally excited to see where the program goes.
Will do a great job? Is losing 9-1 to Northeastern convincing you of that? Would be doing lot better under previous coach but he's coaching pro now.
With Borek there now they are not going anywhere for the time being...They are going to give him time to recruit and build the program up....if not then they should move to another conference...
We will be fine, just watch. Borek will do a great job, may take a couple years. HE is changing, BC and BU are not the places to go anymore. There are better coaches at other schools. Lowell best BU last night, that just shows that a coach can win over talent. Norm can out coach many of the guys out there. Albie May or may not figure out how to be a head coach. UNH will be a team in the future as well, Souza is a great coach. Just look where Umass was before, now look at them, #1 in the country before loss last night.