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Re: Another transfer...

Anon
5’8” in disco boots and 150 lbs with 15 lbs weights in shorts.

Great player, best skater in age group.

I think the OP is asking why leaving BC? Fair question. At some point you have to settle on a team. In this case, the only consistency is playing for daddy. Bad look. Earn playing time, don’t just keep switching teams.

The 587th reason daddy’s shouldn’t be coaching or influencing juniors career...puts kid’s in a tough spot.

Sad story to tell when coaching skills for daddy in Hingham 3 years from now.
You sound like a psycho.

Parents who have their kids looking for the next best team or opportunity throughout their entire youth career is the norm , not the exception. So it sounds silly when you criticize this particular kid. This kid has been with one program for teams, skills and tourneys his entire life. Now he is looking to put himself in the best possible spot to help him succeed. It is nice that he has options.

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Here you go folks. Hockey organizations built around one goal and one goal only. To get Junior ahead of everybody else. If this kid never had his father he would have been just another run of the mill player in New England. The sad part of it all is you folks are funding this travel excursion for Junior. When will this problem ever get fixed?

Re: Another transfer...

Jealously is ugly my friend


So are you saying if his father wasn’t who he was the kid would suck? Get lost the kid is very very talented and you sound like a complete loser ripping on a 18 year old kid. Let me guess TL hurt your feelings about your d3 boy now you want to rip his very talented son. The kid is one of the most skilled players in the entire country but yes he is extremely small but to say he isn’t talented shows you have a problem with SR.

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Hahaha. You wish it was jealousy.

D1 prospect ranking is currently based on:
1 - Ex NHL player’s son
2 - player’s parents with deep pockets
3 - Friends or Family of player’s parents with deep pockets.

Where does the following 2 items fit in the list above:
- Youth hockey director’s kid
- Youth hockey director’s kid who is 4’ 9” and 125 lbs.

Tell me Einstein? You and I both know he would just be another run of the Mill player here in New England if his father wasn’t involved. You know, there are people wondering why there are not many high end players coming out of New England these days.

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A quick look at the BC returning Dman and the incoming recruits, made this decision easy. He wasn't going to dress next year. Buckley told him and TL had to scramble for the best possible spot. TL wasn't happy. Should have played another year in USHL. 18 year undersized frosh dman generally don't play in HE..

Best thing for him is to forge his own path away from TL and make the best of it.(forward would be a much better position..) ASU should be a good fit.

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He will get destroyed playing forward. You can’t be a fringe player at forward and be good at it unless you have a quick release and an accurate powerful shot. That is not the boys game. At that size, he is DIII material at best. He should not even be sniffing anything DI at this stage in his career.

Re: Another transfer...

anon
A quick look at the BC returning Dman and the incoming recruits, made this decision easy. He wasn't going to dress next year. Buckley told him and TL had to scramble for the best possible spot. TL wasn't happy. Should have played another year in USHL. 18 year undersized frosh dman generally don't play in HE..

Best thing for him is to forge his own path away from TL and make the best of it.(forward would be a much better position..) ASU should be a good fit.
For people that supposedly know the hockey landscape - how they didn't have the kid play at least another year of juniors was a massive mistake. If any kid needed another year or two to mature, get stronger it was this kid. Awful advice this kid got.

Re: Another transfer...

anon
anon
A quick look at the BC returning Dman and the incoming recruits, made this decision easy. He wasn\'t going to dress next year. Buckley told him and TL had to scramble for the best possible spot. TL wasn\'t happy. Should have played another year in USHL. 18 year undersized frosh dman generally don\'t play in HE..

Best thing for him is to forge his own path away from TL and make the best of it.(forward would be a much better position..) ASU should be a good fit.
For people that supposedly know the hockey landscape - how they didn't have the kid play at least another year of juniors was a massive mistake. If any kid needed another year or two to mature, get stronger it was this kid. Awful advice this kid got.
So are you saying that his dad, who owns and runs BA gave him bad advice?

Re: Another transfer...

Anon
anon
anon
A quick look at the BC returning Dman and the incoming recruits, made this decision easy. He wasn\\\'t going to dress next year. Buckley told him and TL had to scramble for the best possible spot. TL wasn\\\'t happy. Should have played another year in USHL. 18 year undersized frosh dman generally don\\\'t play in HE..

Best thing for him is to forge his own path away from TL and make the best of it.(forward would be a much better position..) ASU should be a good fit.
For people that supposedly know the hockey landscape - how they didn\'t have the kid play at least another year of juniors was a massive mistake. If any kid needed another year or two to mature, get stronger it was this kid. Awful advice this kid got.
So are you saying that his dad, who owns and runs BA gave him bad advice?
I am saying whoever is his advisor did. He was undersized and played low level juniors for BA, never did the big time tournaments or USA Camps and never dominated his age level he then went to USHL in Chicago (Steel is the best USHL and the best franchise for development in the USHL) for a few games then demanded trade to Des Moines for a half season and was a -8. Why not play another full year in the USHL and mature, get stronger, etc. which would have been the obvious move. Instead they rush him to Hockey East at BC who at times was #1 team in country as a true freshman who is massively undersized and playing against 25 year old men. He plays in 18 games (which is surprising but they needed dman) and doesn't even register a shot on net all season as an offensive defenseman? Instead of sticking with the program and developing he then transfers out to Arizona St? I just don't get the developmental plan at all for this kid. Whoever is giving this kid advice is doing a disservice to the kid IMO. Slowwwww down.

Re: Another transfer...

anon
Anon
anon
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A quick look at the BC returning Dman and the incoming recruits, made this decision easy. He wasn\\\\\\'t going to dress next year. Buckley told him and TL had to scramble for the best possible spot. TL wasn\\\\\\'t happy. Should have played another year in USHL. 18 year undersized frosh dman generally don\\\\\\'t play in HE..

Best thing for him is to forge his own path away from TL and make the best of it.(forward would be a much better position..) ASU should be a good fit.
For people that supposedly know the hockey landscape - how they didn\\'t have the kid play at least another year of juniors was a massive mistake. If any kid needed another year or two to mature, get stronger it was this kid. Awful advice this kid got.
So are you saying that his dad, who owns and runs BA gave him bad advice?
I am saying whoever is his advisor did. He was undersized and played low level juniors for BA, never did the big time tournaments or USA Camps and never dominated his age level he then went to USHL in Chicago (Steel is the best USHL and the best franchise for development in the USHL) for a few games then demanded trade to Des Moines for a half season and was a -8. Why not play another full year in the USHL and mature, get stronger, etc. which would have been the obvious move. Instead they rush him to Hockey East at BC who at times was #1 team in country as a true freshman who is massively undersized and playing against 25 year old men. He plays in 18 games (which is surprising but they needed dman) and doesn't even register a shot on net all season as an offensive defenseman? Instead of sticking with the program and developing he then transfers out to Arizona St? I just don't get the developmental plan at all for this kid. Whoever is giving this kid advice is doing a disservice to the kid IMO.
Right...so my question is...

If that's the advice he got from his dad and advisor/NHL agent friends, what makes you think that anyone else's kids are going to get good advice, recommendations, etc. from BA/Lovell for their kid?

You would think that dad would have the best people lined up to help his son and give him the right guidance, direction, and honest opinions.

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I had one word three years ago and if everyone would have listened to me this would have been all resolved. And at the time the Alex Guerrero candy dishes down in Foxboro were over flowing with them.

The one word: HGH

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That's an acronym dip****

Re: Another transfer...

anon
anon
A quick look at the BC returning Dman and the incoming recruits, made this decision easy. He wasn't going to dress next year. Buckley told him and TL had to scramble for the best possible spot. TL wasn't happy. Should have played another year in USHL. 18 year undersized frosh dman generally don't play in HE..

Best thing for him is to forge his own path away from TL and make the best of it.(forward would be a much better position..) ASU should be a good fit.
For people that supposedly know the hockey landscape - how they didn't have the kid play at least another year of juniors was a massive mistake. If any kid needed another year or two to mature, get stronger it was this kid. Awful advice this kid got.
When your kid is playing for the first place junior team and the BC coach says we want you next season and you tell him. Nah. We need another year of juniors. Then you can spew your stupidity. Otherwise. Just stop.

Kid never dominated at his age group ?

Kid was the best kid on the ice every single game when he was playing three years up.

Kid was the only 15 year old invited to USA camp.

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Unless the kid is a sure fire one and done, every single one of these coaches tells the family, you can come next fall, but we really think you would benefit with a year of junior hockey. They do because they know. Kids who go too early do so because the family pushes their way in. Then they are shocked when their kid can't compete. That or they just blame the coach and leave. Coaches fill short term holes with transfers all the time, even before the free transfer rule so to imply BC somehow had to have a player come in early is just fantasy.

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If he dominated he would have been on USNTD. That was never an option. Not even close. Same for being drafted.

Good hockey player. Not one of the best around. Good though. Never played top tournaments so stop that banter now.

Egotistical crazy dad who pushes too hard and is delusional. Nobody picking on the kid here, only the money hungry father and family.

Feel bad for kid.






Re: Another transfer...

All you naysayers are absurd. BC was at the top of the college rankings this year and is a perennial national power. Do you think Coach Jerry York cannot identify talent and gets pushed around by player families? So it didn't go great this year, but he was on the roster and getting playing time. Do you think Coach York gives a kid who is not capable 7-8 shifts in the HE championship game? If he thinks ASU will be a better opportunity for him then so be it, good luck to whatever any college kid wants to try.

Re: Another transfer...

Anon
All you naysayers are absurd. BC was at the top of the college rankings this year and is a perennial national power. Do you think Coach Jerry York cannot identify talent and gets pushed around by player families? So it didn't go great this year, but he was on the roster and getting playing time. Do you think Coach York gives a kid who is not capable 7-8 shifts in the HE championship game? If he thinks ASU will be a better opportunity for him then so be it, good luck to whatever any college kid wants to try.
They were at the top in a year with no interconference play and no pairwise. Obvisously their ranking was inflated. they are a top program but have not been a perennial national power in many years.

Re: Another transfer...

Anon
All you naysayers are absurd. BC was at the top of the college rankings this year and is a perennial national power. Do you think Coach Jerry York cannot identify talent and gets pushed around by player families? So it didn't go great this year, but he was on the roster and getting playing time. Do you think Coach York gives a kid who is not capable 7-8 shifts in the HE championship game? If he thinks ASU will be a better opportunity for him then so be it, good luck to whatever any college kid wants to try.
You do know that TL's Mom is part of the York family..

So yeah, uncle Jerry might very well been doing the family a solid. Wouldn't be the first time he's done that. In fact, he's done it quite it bit the past few years

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Where does nephew of D1 head coach go now? Time to update the D1 prospect ranking list.

1) Ex-NHL player’s kid
2) Nephew of D1 Head Coach
3) Youth Hockey Director’s/Owners kid
4) 4’ 11” son of Youth Hockey Director’s/Owners kid.
5) player’s parent with deep pockets.
6) Friends/Family player of player whose parents have deep pockets.

I think that about completes the list. Any others?

Question,
Is the boy taking the Porsche with him to Arizona State?

Now that would make me jelly.

Re: Another transfer...

Anon
anon
anon
A quick look at the BC returning Dman and the incoming recruits, made this decision easy. He wasn\'t going to dress next year. Buckley told him and TL had to scramble for the best possible spot. TL wasn\'t happy. Should have played another year in USHL. 18 year undersized frosh dman generally don\'t play in HE..

Best thing for him is to forge his own path away from TL and make the best of it.(forward would be a much better position..) ASU should be a good fit.
For people that supposedly know the hockey landscape - how they didn't have the kid play at least another year of juniors was a massive mistake. If any kid needed another year or two to mature, get stronger it was this kid. Awful advice this kid got.
When your kid is playing for the first place junior team and the BC coach says we want you next season and you tell him. Nah. We need another year of juniors. Then you can spew your stupidity. Otherwise. Just stop.

Kid never dominated at his age group ?

Kid was the best kid on the ice every single game when he was playing three years up.

Kid was the only 15 year old invited to USA camp.

You are delusional and getting some bad information. Maybe put down the spiked blue kool aid.

Not going to rip the kid but there is so misinformation in your post its funny.

Just stop with the false narratives and just be honest.