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EJEPL

Can anyone give solid input to the quality of teams in this league. 06-07 levels

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The silence is deafening.

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It is where local teams go when they can't or don't want to be involved with the e9/BHL or EHF. Select teams with town team capabilities. Amazing how parents pay for youth organizations that play teams in New Jersey, PA, New York. High cost for low caliber hockey.

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isn't that where AA teams of the EHF clubs go?

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90% of the EHF is AA Hockey if you know how it really works.

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90% of the EHF is AA Hockey if you know how it really works.


It's True! AA hockey isn't bad but it isn't AAA by any means. They have muddied the waters and have convinced parents that travel hockey is the same as Elite hockey! Play in the EJEPL and drive four hours to play a team that would lose to most FED AA teams 15 minutes down the road. We will call our top teams Elite and our secondary teams AAA or Tier 1, whereas the rest of the country refers to top teams as AAA and/ or Tier 1. Jr hockey; Elite isn't elite, Elite is Premiere!. The second team ( i.e 90% will never play div 3 hockey) is the Elite team! Follow? How bout the leagues and the camps that create these crazy Acronyms that confuse the Uninformed into thinking that they are signing up for an "Elite" organization. I am all for the dream and fighting the fight and would never tell a kid to hang em up. Never, Never!! These parents just like hearing themselves say Elite or Club or Travel ( as if nobody around here is any good and they have to barnstorm for competition that can keep up)

Pt Barnum was correct!!

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Good teams from around the Northeast who want to play against other good teams and not deal with E9/Fed B.S. They had 3 teams win at Nationals and have kids going to some D1 schools so it looks pretty good to me. 16 game schedule with limited travel. Teams play 8 games at showcases etc. They seem to be adding more NE teams each year so they're doing something right.

Plus as you know the FED and E9 are so incestual they only play themselves, so teams from Ct. NH etc.. use this for the competition. Believe it or not, there are good teams outside of the FED/E9.

These parents from EJ teams are probably more realistic then FED/E9 parents who spend/travel much more. Nah, I take that back, they're all nuts!

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They had 3 teams win at Nationals?

Tier 2?

You seriously want to travel 4-5 hours, pay for food and lodging & tuition to play town level hockey with slick unis and team names because you don't like the other local leagues? How bout MDPHL?

Crunch the numbers from the past year. I am sure you will have a change of heart




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T2 Nationals is pretty good hockey with many players that go on to college etc. I looked at some teams schedules and it seems like a good option for teams. Also, never saw teams driving 4/5 hours for games. In my state teams listed traveled 1/2 hours for games. Teams drive 4/5 for tourneys all the time and thats what the showcase listed last year was.

Seems a good option for teams that don't want to pay the $ for BHL and Fed. MPDHL is bad hockey at some levels, saw a squirt game and it was like town B, which is fine for some.

What specifics when crunching numbers didnt you like. Not every parent wants to spend a ton of $ on fed/e9. No EJ teams near my area but looks like a good a league.

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EJ = MPDHL

Both leagues are garbage. Both leagues have organizations that are just trying to keep their doors open. These orgs just need to close shop. All the New England region needs is 2 competing select leagues (EHF and E9/BHL). That is all that is needed to keep it competitive for the youth levels. The level of play becomes watered down if other leagues are allowed to continue. MPDHL should be closed and the kids on these teams should be playing town. EJ barely has any teams in the region. They are mostly a New York, PA, New Jersey league.

At the Midget and up levels, USPHL is the best league with the EHL becoming the lesser of the 2 leagues. The EHL should close shop. The region only needs one league at the pay to play level. At Tier 2, NAHL is where the best players in the region should be playing. I hope the efforts in Mass for a NAHL team are successful. Paying to play hockey at the Junior level is BS. If you are still paying to play hockey at Juniors then you are going to be paying for your college as well. You might as well hang them up and save your money for college.

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EJ = MPDHL

Both leagues are garbage. Both leagues have organizations that are just trying to keep their doors open. These orgs just need to close shop. All the New England region needs is 2 competing select leagues (EHF and E9/BHL). That is all that is needed to keep it competitive for the youth levels. The level of play becomes watered down if other leagues are allowed to continue. MPDHL should be closed and the kids on these teams should be playing town. EJ barely has any teams in the region. They are mostly a New York, PA, New Jersey league.

At the Midget and up levels, USPHL is the best league with the EHL becoming the lesser of the 2 leagues. The EHL should close shop. The region only needs one league at the pay to play level. At Tier 2, NAHL is where the best players in the region should be playing. I hope the efforts in Mass for a NAHL team are successful. Paying to play hockey at the Junior level is BS. If you are still paying to play hockey at Juniors then you are going to be paying for your college as well. You might as well hang them up and save your money for college.


take your inferiority complex and dream on, I can tell you that some of the MPDHL - not all, some - can beat up EHF Elite teams. Some years stronger, some not so strong. And no my kid did not get cut and yes kid plays both. But, I agree, on average the EHF has the better players, but that doesn't mean you get the better development.

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The truth hurts and it is people like you that ruin youth hockey. You can't stand the fact that the EHF is better than your town MPDHL team. You will lose your anger when you accept the truth.

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Please name one? VJW and Wizards are certainly on par with EHF and some of the CT teams and certainly AYJHL NY - NJ teams. Who else please??

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.

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Anon
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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?

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Anon
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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.

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anon
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Anon
anon
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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.



My Hockey Rankings are a fair indicator but heavily favor the stronger teams and leagues. I trust the eyeball test. Please provide one team. I promise to keep it cordial and respectful

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Anon
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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.



My Hockey Rankings are a fair indicator but heavily favor the stronger teams and leagues. I trust the eyeball test. Please provide one team. I promise to keep it cordial and respectful


Not sure what your eyeballs are seeing but you should get your eyes checked. There aren't plenty of team and org that are better than EHF teams…sorry but its just not true no matter what your messed up eyeballs are telling you.

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anon
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anon
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Anon
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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.



My Hockey Rankings are a fair indicator but heavily favor the stronger teams and leagues. I trust the eyeball test. Please provide one team. I promise to keep it cordial and respectful


Not sure what your eyeballs are seeing but you should get your eyes checked. There aren't plenty of team and org that are better than EHF teams…sorry but its just not true no matter what your messed up eyeballs are telling you.




Perhaps you are right!! I would just be curious what programs are better? I named two that are certainly on par and alluded to the Ct- Ny-Nj teams which are every bit as good across the board. I would be curious which local programs you are referring to? I do know that the reason teams are kept out of Fed has to do with territory and skill level.( owning a rink helps too) This is a fact! Nothing to do with cost to the organization. EMHL (?) is owned by Fed and allows new teams in and I Imagine will give the teams that excel an opportunity to move up. Am I wrong?

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Not sure what your eyeballs are seeing but you should get your eyes checked. There aren't plenty of team and org that are better than EHF teams…sorry but its just not true no matter what your messed up eyeballs are telling you.


Ok, I understand you don't like being put on the spot. I get it! You say a team, then get lambasted for it and feel shame!

How about the league where these teams play?

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Anon
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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.



My Hockey Rankings are a fair indicator but heavily favor the stronger teams and leagues. I trust the eyeball test. Please provide one team. I promise to keep it cordial and respectful


ok so let's try this. 05 NE Jr Hurricanes went 32-2-2 in their division. The bottom three 05 Fed elite teams went 0-36-1, 0-9-1, 9-31-2. All FED teams are ranked higher on MHR. You don't think this team could compete with the bottom three teams? (and no my kid does not play for the hurricanes, nor am I involved with the league or the program.)
And to the gentleman calling me ignorant without knowing me. Try me. I amthe last one shying away from a good discussion and admitting when I am wrong.

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.



My Hockey Rankings are a fair indicator but heavily favor the stronger teams and leagues. I trust the eyeball test. Please provide one team. I promise to keep it cordial and respectful


ok so let's try this. 05 NE Jr Hurricanes went 32-2-2 in their division. The bottom three 05 Fed elite teams went 0-36-1, 0-9-1, 9-31-2. All FED teams are ranked higher on MHR. You don't think this team could compete with the bottom three teams? (and no my kid does not play for the hurricanes, nor am I involved with the league or the program.)
And to the gentleman calling me ignorant without knowing me. Try me. I amthe last one shying away from a good discussion and admitting when I am wrong.


No the 05 NE Jr Hurricanes would not beat the bottom three EHF teams. Its equivalent to the bottom 3 NHL teams and the best AHL. Games wouldn't be close.

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Go to My hockey rankings and look at who they play in the top two leagues and how those teams ( such as Seacoast Spartans) do in their own league. Looking it over quickly; Spartans lost to Hurricanes 4-2. Sounds like potentially a close game with an empty netter or maybe not! Then look at the scores Spartans had against VJW Elite, ECW Elite, Advantage Ice Elite, 14-1; 10--1, 12-1; 18-1!! Holy !!

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The Hurricanes also lost a Barn Burner to the New England Bulldogs 8-7!!

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So did your awesome NE Jr. Hurricanes 05 team play the Seacoast Spartan Selects or the Seacoast Spartan Elites? You got the JWK AAA confused with the JWK Elite tournament. My guess is you played the Seacoast Spartan Selects and beat the BHL National team 4 -2. As for the Seacoast Spartans Elites. Yep, they were a bad team and the E9 league probably doesn't like having this team lose games 18 - 1.

My point still stands, EJ and MPDHL leagues are garbage town leagues.

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You guys are out there! If you put any weight in MHR you obviously never played the game. It's for parents who were probably non-athletes, or have no clue about hockey to puff there chest. Yes, there are top teams that is obvious, but this is youth hockey and anyone around the same ability level can beat anyone at anytime.

The one guy who is obsessed with ripping the Hurricanes move on, we get it your awesome! . Oh no wait, your not awesome your just living through your kid, and are a true dusty bender if you can even skate.

Moving on here people!
Fed, E9, EJ, MPDHL, and all the other leagues have good and bad teams. Problem with NE is everyone's afraid to play each other and lose $/pride. That's why a league like EJ is smart. It's basically a league that organizes and schedules extra games for teams that want more. You can't get independent games with all the rules about playing out of league teams etc. So this league handles setting up your independent games basically is how I see it. All the teams play in various leagues, and are probably looking for some variety. The teams from far away fly here to play so its not like your going to California as someone said before. No teams around me, but whoever runs it was smart and capitalized on how youth hockey is today.

Its all watered down, and NE has produced less and less pros, every year. But if the scouts came on this site they'd find the next Eichel according to how amazing all these leagues and players are.Enjoy the ride!

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You guys are out there! If you put any weight in MHR you obviously never played the game. It's for parents who were probably non-athletes, or have no clue about hockey to puff there chest. Yes, there are top teams that is obvious, but this is youth hockey and anyone around the same ability level can beat anyone at anytime.

The one guy who is obsessed with ripping the Hurricanes move on, we get it your awesome! . Oh no wait, your not awesome your just living through your kid, and are a true dusty bender if you can even skate.

Moving on here people!
Fed, E9, EJ, MPDHL, and all the other leagues have good and bad teams. Problem with NE is everyone's afraid to play each other and lose $/pride. That's why a league like EJ is smart. It's basically a league that organizes and schedules extra games for teams that want more. You can't get independent games with all the rules about playing out of league teams etc. So this league handles setting up your independent games basically is how I see it. All the teams play in various leagues, and are probably looking for some variety. The teams from far away fly here to play so its not like your going to California as someone said before. No teams around me, but whoever runs it was smart and capitalized on how youth hockey is today.

Its all watered down, and NE has produced less and less pros, every year. But if the scouts came on this site they'd find the next Eichel according to how amazing all these leagues and players are.Enjoy the ride!



Huh? MHR? One guy says it is fixed and bought another guy says it is skewed and favors the stronger leagues and you are off course Sir!!

Now from your high perch I guess that is how you see it. EJ is just another weak league that promotes itself as a showcase league. Problem is nobody there to watch.

Also, Mass has 3 (2000) kids who will be drafted in the first three rounds in a few years in an otherwise weak group whereas 01, 02,03 are very deep in very good players but no clear cut studs( yet is early :)

Parents, get your kids in a good organization, with a good coach and support your child. Enjoy the ride!

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.



My Hockey Rankings are a fair indicator but heavily favor the stronger teams and leagues. I trust the eyeball test. Please provide one team. I promise to keep it cordial and respectful


ok so let's try this. 05 NE Jr Hurricanes went 32-2-2 in their division. The bottom three 05 Fed elite teams went 0-36-1, 0-9-1, 9-31-2. All FED teams are ranked higher on MHR. You don't think this team could compete with the bottom three teams? (and no my kid does not play for the hurricanes, nor am I involved with the league or the program.)
And to the gentleman calling me ignorant without knowing me. Try me. I amthe last one shying away from a good discussion and admitting when I am wrong.


No the 05 NE Jr Hurricanes would not beat the bottom three EHF teams. Its equivalent to the bottom 3 NHL teams and the best AHL. Games wouldn't be close.


want to talk about delusional. time to get over your "Elite" EHF cant be beat crap. any of the top teams in EJEPL/E9/MPDL would compete just fine in the EHF elite. Would they win it. Maybe not but dont try and tell everyone there is no chance because then you just like another idiot paying $4000 to boost his own ego. Also MHR is a total joke because you can BUY a higher ranking. Once that happens all of the information becomes worthless.

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.



My Hockey Rankings are a fair indicator but heavily favor the stronger teams and leagues. I trust the eyeball test. Please provide one team. I promise to keep it cordial and respectful


ok so let's try this. 05 NE Jr Hurricanes went 32-2-2 in their division. The bottom three 05 Fed elite teams went 0-36-1, 0-9-1, 9-31-2. All FED teams are ranked higher on MHR. You don't think this team could compete with the bottom three teams? (and no my kid does not play for the hurricanes, nor am I involved with the league or the program.)
And to the gentleman calling me ignorant without knowing me. Try me. I amthe last one shying away from a good discussion and admitting when I am wrong.


No the 05 NE Jr Hurricanes would not beat the bottom three EHF teams. Its equivalent to the bottom 3 NHL teams and the best AHL. Games wouldn't be close.


want to talk about delusional. time to get over your "Elite" EHF cant be beat crap. any of the top teams in EJEPL/E9/MPDL would compete just fine in the EHF elite. Would they win it. Maybe not but dont try and tell everyone there is no chance because then you just like another idiot paying $4000 to boost his own ego. Also MHR is a total joke because you can BUY a higher ranking. Once that happens all of the information becomes worthless.


You are nuts. You cannot buy a higher ranking on MHR…but of course you think you can thus why your kids team isn't ranked higher. DELUSIONAL. Your kids Town C team would roll your Town A team…we get it.

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I'm pretty sure you can't buy rankings. However, I do think the rankings are skewed slightly towards the better leagues. A top 10 team is awfully good but so is a top 30 team. Typically anywhere in the top 50 tier1 is pretty strong! Not to say # 75 couldnt beat a top 20 team! Sure it happens often.

As for $4,000. Little high! More like $3,000, which is the same as most travel teams!

It's a fact the Fed teams are typically the best teams with the deeper teams. You can see it in the skating, on ice prescence and how they process the game. Some of the E9 teams are right there with the middle to bottom of the Fed, with a couple of birth years right there in the national mix.


Doesn't mean your kid is not any good or not going to develop. Just means he may or may not be there yet. The race to puberty ends around 17 or 18 and does factor in especially in the early years.

Not sure why this guy telling everybody to calm down doesn't get it? It is plain to see. My guess is Lil Sniper plays on a lower level team! Just a guess

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.



My Hockey Rankings are a fair indicator but heavily favor the stronger teams and leagues. I trust the eyeball test. Please provide one team. I promise to keep it cordial and respectful


ok so let's try this. 05 NE Jr Hurricanes went 32-2-2 in their division. The bottom three 05 Fed elite teams went 0-36-1, 0-9-1, 9-31-2. All FED teams are ranked higher on MHR. You don't think this team could compete with the bottom three teams? (and no my kid does not play for the hurricanes, nor am I involved with the league or the program.)
And to the gentleman calling me ignorant without knowing me. Try me. I amthe last one shying away from a good discussion and admitting when I am wrong.


No the 05 NE Jr Hurricanes would not beat the bottom three EHF teams. Its equivalent to the bottom 3 NHL teams and the best AHL. Games wouldn't be close.


This last one is hilarious ! That Bottom 05 EHF Elite team was worse than the Bottom BHL team, and that 05 Knights AAA team was ugly ! I am familair with kids that played on both team. Not saying that speaks about the EHF as a whole, but that does show you that being an Elite EHF team means nothing.

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.



My Hockey Rankings are a fair indicator but heavily favor the stronger teams and leagues. I trust the eyeball test. Please provide one team. I promise to keep it cordial and respectful


ok so let's try this. 05 NE Jr Hurricanes went 32-2-2 in their division. The bottom three 05 Fed elite teams went 0-36-1, 0-9-1, 9-31-2. All FED teams are ranked higher on MHR. You don't think this team could compete with the bottom three teams? (and no my kid does not play for the hurricanes, nor am I involved with the league or the program.)
And to the gentleman calling me ignorant without knowing me. Try me. I amthe last one shying away from a good discussion and admitting when I am wrong.


No the 05 NE Jr Hurricanes would not beat the bottom three EHF teams. Its equivalent to the bottom 3 NHL teams and the best AHL. Games wouldn't be close.


This last one is hilarious ! That Bottom 05 EHF Elite team was worse than the Bottom BHL team, and that 05 Knights AAA team was ugly ! I am familair with kids that played on both team. Not saying that speaks about the EHF as a whole, but that does show you that being an Elite EHF team means nothing.


That's the problem is that everyone looks at the top teams in the EHF Elite and think that means the whole league is better than all the others. The bottom 1/3 to 1/2 of teams in the EHF Elite are no better than the top teams in the MPDHL, BHL or E9. The only reason is that they are in the "Elite" is that the organizations paid to get them in or they are founding members.

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And as for the MHR rankings, just look at it this way. There are a total of 99 teams in the 02 Tier 1 rankings. 15 of them are from MA. Wisconsin, Michigan and Illinois have a total of 15 teams. Which area produces more college players or drafted players? I would say that at least half of those 15 teams should be tier 2 but because the people that run those leagues got MHR to recognize all the teams in both the EHF Elite and E9 as Tier 1, they get weighted more than other teams which are just as good. MHR might be a good idea and is a good resource, but it's not the be all, end all.

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And as for the MHR rankings, just look at it this way. There are a total of 99 teams in the 02 Tier 1 rankings. 15 of them are from MA. Wisconsin, Michigan and Illinois have a total of 15 teams. Which area produces more college players or drafted players? I would say that at least half of those 15 teams should be tier 2 but because the people that run those leagues got MHR to recognize all the teams in both the EHF Elite and E9 as Tier 1, they get weighted more than other teams which are just as good. MHR might be a good idea and is a good resource, but it's not the be all, end all.



Good hockey is good hockey! Tier 1 or Tier 2!

When I want to find out about a team that is ranked Tier 2 , I go to MHR and look at their results and who played them tight and who punished them. Once you have a pretty good sample size, you can get a pretty good sense who that team is.

And no, I don't live in my parents basement!!

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.



My Hockey Rankings are a fair indicator but heavily favor the stronger teams and leagues. I trust the eyeball test. Please provide one team. I promise to keep it cordial and respectful


ok so let's try this. 05 NE Jr Hurricanes went 32-2-2 in their division. The bottom three 05 Fed elite teams went 0-36-1, 0-9-1, 9-31-2. All FED teams are ranked higher on MHR. You don't think this team could compete with the bottom three teams? (and no my kid does not play for the hurricanes, nor am I involved with the league or the program.)
And to the gentleman calling me ignorant without knowing me. Try me. I amthe last one shying away from a good discussion and admitting when I am wrong.


No the 05 NE Jr Hurricanes would not beat the bottom three EHF teams. Its equivalent to the bottom 3 NHL teams and the best AHL. Games wouldn't be close.


This last one is hilarious ! That Bottom 05 EHF Elite team was worse than the Bottom BHL team, and that 05 Knights AAA team was ugly ! I am familair with kids that played on both team. Not saying that speaks about the EHF as a whole, but that does show you that being an Elite EHF team means nothing.



" . Not saying that speaks about the EHF as a whole, but that does show you that being an Elite EHF team means nothing

HUH?? You just contradicted yourself in the same sentence! I didn't know that was even possible!

Pretzel logic!! There worst team in one division is better than your worst team in one division which doesn't mean anything about the league as a whole, but shows you that league isn't all that???

Wanna try that again?

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.



My Hockey Rankings are a fair indicator but heavily favor the stronger teams and leagues. I trust the eyeball test. Please provide one team. I promise to keep it cordial and respectful


ok so let's try this. 05 NE Jr Hurricanes went 32-2-2 in their division. The bottom three 05 Fed elite teams went 0-36-1, 0-9-1, 9-31-2. All FED teams are ranked higher on MHR. You don't think this team could compete with the bottom three teams? (and no my kid does not play for the hurricanes, nor am I involved with the league or the program.)
And to the gentleman calling me ignorant without knowing me. Try me. I amthe last one shying away from a good discussion and admitting when I am wrong.


No the 05 NE Jr Hurricanes would not beat the bottom three EHF teams. Its equivalent to the bottom 3 NHL teams and the best AHL. Games wouldn't be close.


This last one is hilarious ! That Bottom 05 EHF Elite team was worse than the Bottom BHL team, and that 05 Knights AAA team was ugly ! I am familair with kids that played on both team. Not saying that speaks about the EHF as a whole, but that does show you that being an Elite EHF team means nothing.



" . Not saying that speaks about the EHF as a whole, but that does show you that being an Elite EHF team means nothing

HUH?? You just contradicted yourself in the same sentence! I didn't know that was even possible!

Pretzel logic!! There worst team in one division is better than your worst team in one division which doesn't mean anything about the league as a whole, but shows you that league isn't all that???

Wanna try that again?



Sure, and I will make it as simple as possible so that you can keep up. I am saying that just because your kids plays EHF elite does not mean that they are better then every other kid in every other league at every division. Thus, just having the Elite EHF moniker does not make you elite.

You want to look at it as the worst team in a league versus the worst team in the league, on a level playing field, apples to apples.

The problem with your reading comprehension is right on par with your logic. My comparison was that the worst team in the "BEST" elite league was actually worse that the worse team in the Worse League at the AAA level. SO just being an EHF Elite team is really not an accurate gauge.

Do you understand that now... an elite team in the best league according to you dingbats was worse than the worse team in the worst league... so I was saying that example does not speak for the entire EHF bit its a lot closer and sometimes opposite of what you think.

Bottom line... if your kid is average, then playing in the EHF does not make him elite or any better than any other player in any league in of itself.

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If you think that one will not offer better development then another then you are in denial. An EHF Elite team playing a MPDHL team at the youth level would be no fun for either team with no development. C'mon, are you serious.


yes am serious. And before everyone gets their panties in a twist. If you read my last post it said my kid plays both ehf elite and mdphl. I did say better player does not necessarily mean better development. Friends son moved to a very competitive top two EHF elite team. He complained to me that coaches are not developing instead they are out recruiting the next big thing.
player development is not only about the league. It is mainly about the coach. I don't care about the "prestige" that comes with playing elite. I worry about what the coach's philosophy is about developing players.

I also said this applies not to all teams in all years but to believe that there are only elite players in the EHF and only town players in the MPDHL is ludicrous. and by the way people are reacting, all I can say is.

calm down.


There are plenty of teams and organizations in MA that are as good or better than EHF Elite teams but don't play in that league because of the cost. In order for new teams to be admitted to the EHF Elite, the organization has to come up with a significant amount of money to get them in. Teams at the youth levels are all about the coaches. Plenty of good coaches out there that will develop players that the youth levels.


Wrong.


great argumentation skills on your part. aren't you happy that it is still cold outside so you can wear your EHF team jacket?


Its really not worth arguing because apparently you are so ignorant on the topic it wouldn't matter what I say. I could post MHR rankings, tournament results, etc and you still wouldn't be convinced.



My Hockey Rankings are a fair indicator but heavily favor the stronger teams and leagues. I trust the eyeball test. Please provide one team. I promise to keep it cordial and respectful


ok so let's try this. 05 NE Jr Hurricanes went 32-2-2 in their division. The bottom three 05 Fed elite teams went 0-36-1, 0-9-1, 9-31-2. All FED teams are ranked higher on MHR. You don't think this team could compete with the bottom three teams? (and no my kid does not play for the hurricanes, nor am I involved with the league or the program.)
And to the gentleman calling me ignorant without knowing me. Try me. I amthe last one shying away from a good discussion and admitting when I am wrong.


No the 05 NE Jr Hurricanes would not beat the bottom three EHF teams. Its equivalent to the bottom 3 NHL teams and the best AHL. Games wouldn't be close.


This last one is hilarious ! That Bottom 05 EHF Elite team was worse than the Bottom BHL team, and that 05 Knights AAA team was ugly ! I am familair with kids that played on both team. Not saying that speaks about the EHF as a whole, but that does show you that being an Elite EHF team means nothing.



" . Not saying that speaks about the EHF as a whole, but that does show you that being an Elite EHF team means nothing

HUH?? You just contradicted yourself in the same sentence! I didn't know that was even possible!

Pretzel logic!! There worst team in one division is better than your worst team in one division which doesn't mean anything about the league as a whole, but shows you that league isn't all that???

Wanna try that again?



Sure, and I will make it as simple as possible so that you can keep up. I am saying that just because your kids plays EHF elite does not mean that they are better then every other kid in every other league at every division. Thus, just having the Elite EHF moniker does not make you elite.

You want to look at it as the worst team in a league versus the worst team in the league, on a level playing field, apples to apples.

The problem with your reading comprehension is right on par with your logic. My comparison was that the worst team in the "BEST" elite league was actually worse that the worse team in the Worse League at the AAA level. SO just being an EHF Elite team is really not an accurate gauge.

Do you understand that now... an elite team in the best league according to you dingbats was worse than the worse team in the worst league... so I was saying that example does not speak for the entire EHF bit its a lot closer and sometimes opposite of what you think.

Bottom line... if your kid is average, then playing in the EHF does not make him elite or any better than any other player in any league in of itself.



Ha ha. You are the poster child of the dad whose kid got cut and uses his mental shell game to justify it his own mind! Ha, ha. You are tortured! Ha, ha you funny guy!!

Top to bottom EHF is far and above the others! Everybody knows it. It's ok, some of the other teams and players are equally good. So go hang your hat on that Chief.

Now, Please tell me what organization your kid plays on, please, please. But spell it out clearly because I am a mental midget who plays checkers and you are a Grandmaster Chess playa.. Playa...

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Do people really come on here for some type of justification or revenge afdter their kid was cut ??? or is that just a tired line that most of you losers resort to when losing arguments or making invalid points ?

Don't worry about me bud, my kid was not cut from an EHF team, mainly because he wont tryout for on that is close to us because they were both really really really bad.

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It's just a tired line that most of you losers resort to when losing arguments or making invalid points.

Thanks for asking.

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Not only would the 05 Hurricanes beat the bottom 3 EHF/E9 teams they would kill them. They would probably be in the middle to back of the EHF Elite league. They have beat the Elite Rangers, Elite East Coast Spartans and beat teams that Top Gun Elite lost to. Plus the Hurricanes pull from tiny geographic area compared to the off cape teams. It is coaching for sure. You obviously haven't seen them play and have no clue. You are making blanket statements but don't actually know. Their ranking would be even higher if some of the EHF/E9 teams would have the balls to play them... they are afraid they would be embarrassed!
P.s My son plays EHF Elite 02 so don't even bother with your bender remarks. We have actually watched the Hurricanes 05 in several tournaments... not sure what they look like this year though...

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Not only would the 05 Hurricanes beat the bottom 3 EHF/E9 teams they would kill them. They would probably be in the middle to back of the EHF Elite league. They have beat the Elite Rangers, Elite East Coast Spartans and beat teams that Top Gun Elite lost to. Plus the Hurricanes pull from tiny geographic area compared to the off cape teams. It is coaching for sure. You obviously haven't seen them play and have no clue. You are making blanket statements but don't actually know. Their ranking would be even higher if some of the EHF/E9 teams would have the balls to play them... they are afraid they would be embarrassed!
P.s My son plays EHF Elite 02 so don't even bother with your bender remarks. We have actually watched the Hurricanes 05 in several tournaments... not sure what they look like this year though...


It's not hard to go back and check on your claims. The Rangers game is not shown on MHR, you beat the East Coast Wizards Select team, and you beat a few EHF Tier 1 teams. I see you did beat the Seacoast Spartans Elite team, but they were at the bottom of their division (7 wins all year). You played nobody, so the record is not all that impressive.

Look, I'm sure the kids had a great year and they are improving under the leadership of a good coaching staff. But let's not overdo it. And if you think I believe that you don't have a kid on the team...and why would you call them benders?

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Not only would the 05 Hurricanes beat the bottom 3 EHF/E9 teams they would kill them. They would probably be in the middle to back of the EHF Elite league. They have beat the Elite Rangers, Elite East Coast Spartans and beat teams that Top Gun Elite lost to. Plus the Hurricanes pull from tiny geographic area compared to the off cape teams. It is coaching for sure. You obviously haven't seen them play and have no clue. You are making blanket statements but don't actually know. Their ranking would be even higher if some of the EHF/E9 teams would have the balls to play them... they are afraid they would be embarrassed!
P.s My son plays EHF Elite 02 so don't even bother with your bender remarks. We have actually watched the Hurricanes 05 in several tournaments... not sure what they look like this year though...


It's not hard to go back and check on your claims. The Rangers game is not shown on MHR, you beat the East Coast Wizards Select team, and you beat a few EHF Tier 1 teams. I see you did beat the Seacoast Spartans Elite team, but they were at the bottom of their division (7 wins all year). You played nobody, so the record is not all that impressive.

Look, I'm sure the kids had a great year and they are improving under the leadership of a good coaching staff. But let's not overdo it. And if you think I believe that you don't have a kid on the team...and why would you call them benders?


Great response! I don't have a dog in the fight but the thread piqued my interest, so I looked up the team. Record is impressive, the opponents/ Not so much!

The kids should be proud of themselves for having a really successful season. Good for them! The dad might want to get a little grip on reality though. The team squeaked by a bunch of mid level tier 2 teams. Lets reign it in a little buddy. If you are going to be cocky about it, you better be sure you know your audience.

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Not only would the 05 Hurricanes beat the bottom 3 EHF/E9 teams they would kill them. They would probably be in the middle to back of the EHF Elite league. They have beat the Elite Rangers, Elite East Coast Spartans and beat teams that Top Gun Elite lost to. Plus the Hurricanes pull from tiny geographic area compared to the off cape teams. It is coaching for sure. You obviously haven't seen them play and have no clue. You are making blanket statements but don't actually know. Their ranking would be even higher if some of the EHF/E9 teams would have the balls to play them... they are afraid they would be embarrassed!
P.s My son plays EHF Elite 02 so don't even bother with your bender remarks. We have actually watched the Hurricanes 05 in several tournaments... not sure what they look like this year though...


It's not hard to go back and check on your claims. The Rangers game is not shown on MHR, you beat the East Coast Wizards Select team, and you beat a few EHF Tier 1 teams. I see you did beat the Seacoast Spartans Elite team, but they were at the bottom of their division (7 wins all year). You played nobody, so the record is not all that impressive.

Look, I'm sure the kids had a great year and they are improving under the leadership of a good coaching staff. But let's not overdo it. And if you think I believe that you don't have a kid on the team...and why would you call them benders?


Great response! I don't have a dog in the fight but the thread piqued my interest, so I looked up the team. Record is impressive, the opponents/ Not so much!

The kids should be proud of themselves for having a really successful season. Good for them! The dad might want to get a little grip on reality though. The team squeaked by a bunch of mid level tier 2 teams. Lets reign it in a little buddy. If you are going to be cocky about it, you better be sure you know your audience.


The Hurricanes are a good program within their league, nothing more. They cannot and will not beat EHF elite teams or even E9 teams. The parents are often confused when they compete against other leagues and they don't understand the levels within each league for examples E9, American and BHL. Beating a select team in the BHL (lowest level) isn't the equivalent of beating an E9 team. Beating a team in the EHF white division (lowest level) isn't the same as beating an EHF Elite team. This upcoming season they have added a few players and one of the craziest coaches on the planet so they should be improved unless the new coach destroys the team!

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Who is new coach?

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EJ = MPDHL

Both leagues are garbage. Both leagues have organizations that are just trying to keep their doors open. These orgs just need to close shop. All the New England region needs is 2 competing select leagues (EHF and E9/BHL). That is all that is needed to keep it competitive for the youth levels. The level of play becomes watered down if other leagues are allowed to continue. MPDHL should be closed and the kids on these teams should be playing town. EJ barely has any teams in the region. They are mostly a New York, PA, New Jersey league.

At the Midget and up levels, USPHL is the best league with the EHL becoming the lesser of the 2 leagues. The EHL should close shop. The region only needs one league at the pay to play level. At Tier 2, NAHL is where the best players in the region should be playing. I hope the efforts in Mass for a NAHL team are successful. Paying to play hockey at the Junior level is BS. If you are still paying to play hockey at Juniors then you are going to be paying for your college as well. You might as well hang them up and save your money for college.


take your inferiority complex and dream on, I can tell you that some of the MPDHL - not all, some - can beat up EHF Elite teams. Some years stronger, some not so strong. And no my kid did not get cut and yes kid plays both. But, I agree, on average the EHF has the better players, but that doesn't mean you get the better development.


20 or more teams in NE are in the EJEPL, 70+ teams they don't seem to be hurting. You do realize it's a supplemental league and not full time so don't compare it to the other 2. Make sure you post your child's name when he's in the NHL. Typical parent who never played the game which are the majority of Fed/E9 parents. BHL and Fed T1 teams aren't great, and this league is a better option at a much lower cost and teams don't have to pay crazy fees. In a perfect world there would be 1 Elite league and players would go back to town. But that won't happen due to egos and money. MPDHL is good at the U 14 and up and an 05 team won the JWK AAA so they must have some good teams.

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JWK AAA is less than JWK Elite. You do realize that? Your town MPDHL team won a town tournament. Good for you. I got some news for you. It is your ego that needs to be fixed. You must be a youth hockey director or a secretary for one of these leagues because they are the only ones that know how much teams are paying to join leagues. Keep your jealousy to yourself and shut up.

EJ and MPDHL are garbage leagues

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Your New England Jr. Hurricanes team beat the East Coast Wizards Select team. News flash, you didn't play the top team. The East Coast Wizards Elite team would of destroyed your son's 05 team. You are delusional.

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As for the EJ teams being strong, well the ones in NY, NJ, and PA are. The 20 from around here are garbage like your New England Jr Hurricanes organization. I would put the following orgs in this category of being garbage:

First, at the youth level
cp dynamos
nh monarchs
northern cyclones
RI Hitmen
Cisco Bay
NS Wings
new england jr. hurricanes
maine moose
new england wolves

then at the midget and up level (Which don't even have 20 teams from around here in it, I'm not including the Connecticut teams).
NS Wings (Org does not even have youth teams anymore)
nh monarchs
nh avalanche (BTW, youth teams play in the E9/BHL)
boston bandits (BTW, youth teams play in the Fed)

Hell you have teams from California in this idiotic league. How the hell does that work?


That is a real strong league you got going there. EJ and MPDHL should just fold.

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Wow some touchy people here! Nobody ever said EJ is Elite you dummies! Try comprehending what is written. Basic statements about leagues have a clue! If you don't like the league take your small centered brain and debate about who's better E9 or Fed elsewhere. Keep living through your kids, you do realize you don't actually play for these youth teams right? Sure your the dad's walking around with team gear at the rinks! TOOLS! and no my kid's not a bender and I'm not a Hurricane parent.

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As for the EJ teams being strong, well the ones in NY, NJ, and PA are. The 20 from around here are garbage like your New England Jr Hurricanes organization. I would put the following orgs in this category of being garbage:

First, at the youth level
cp dynamos
nh monarchs
northern cyclones
RI Hitmen
Cisco Bay
NS Wings
new england jr. hurricanes
maine moose
new england wolves

then at the midget and up level (Which don't even have 20 teams from around here in it, I'm not including the Connecticut teams).
NS Wings (Org does not even have youth teams anymore)
nh monarchs
nh avalanche (BTW, youth teams play in the E9/BHL)
boston bandits (BTW, youth teams play in the Fed)

Hell you have teams from California in this idiotic league. How the hell does that work?


That is a real strong league you got going there. EJ and MPDHL should just fold.



My son has played E9, Fed Elite, as well as some lower leagues and town. The problem is that there is so much demand for an alternative to town hockey that all of these teams ( and in step many leagues) have cropped up. This in of itself is not a bad thing! The problem is that the Two Powerhouse leagues have their own agendas and self interests in mind. Maybe it is good business but certainly not good for all. They are protecting themselves as a league ( Quality Brand) and as individual organizations ( Territory) by controlling who they allow in and what level they place them in. The Programs that want to make a run of it are forced to create their own leagues, join a lesser league or play as independents. Much tougher to sell the parents on the quality of the program and the opportunity to develop the players when everybody is sh**tting on their NEW program. Countries like Finland work together developing ALL the kids early and then allowing the clubs to compete against each other later on. It's too bad we will never be able make the necessary changes ( Socialist vs Capitalistic countries). Our society would never allow for that type of collaboration.

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This is an example of an idiot parent or an owner/youth organization director who keeps telling himself the EJ is better. There are stupid people everywhere.