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Aug 31, 2016 - 9:21AM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

Anon

Not going to happen this season. All those teams are already scheduled for games in their respective leagues for this season. This means that they have already paid their league fees for the season. Maybe next year, but schedules for this season for all teams is already set and fees paid.

Thank you Captain Obvious. No one stated it was happening this season. Boch going to Fed next year.

So why would they change the name and website this year if nothing was going to happen? I'm responding to what the OP wrote. The way it was written made it sound like it was changing this year.

a

Aug 31, 2016 - 9:21AM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

Some teams from fed are only tier 1. Team fees and player rates will be lower. It's a business move not a move to improve the hockey experience.

ok so when these delusional parents see their teams leaving the Fed do you think these parents are going to move to a league that no one has heard of? No the fed teams will do what the Caps did this season. take over the Northstars and Friars and pull in more kids to keep the money themselves. . they are not going to tarnish the brand and move teams to play against the Hitmen, Bulldogs,or Crimson.

a

Aug 31, 2016 - 9:23AM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

Anon

Anon

why would any teams leave the FED or E9 to join this league? its not like competition is going to get better on these lower level town teams.

The best thing about this board is all the ignorance .

that was enlightening. Please bless us with your wisdom and answer the question. All these teams already have option for tier 1 and elite. What would Fed and E9 teams move to this league when the MPDHL teams already cant compete with FEd or E9 teams?

The ignorance I speak of is your last sentence .....

There are plenty of kids in MPDHL , EJEPL and other leagues that are just as good as some of the FED elite kids . Be thankful they didn't could you imagine if every FED team had 200 kids at each age level for tryouts and was the only league around , trust me when I say if this was the case your kid would not be playing . There are plenty of good players in other leagues .

a

Aug 31, 2016 - 9:32AM

Re: MPDHL no longer

MPDHL Premier is far superior to EHF at the Midget half season level. Teams qualify for Nattys through the MPDHL. There is no Elite 9/BHL after U14. Midget teams are already in the MPDHL

So, the question is, can they build the brand below Midgets?

None of these programs mentioned are strong at the youth level. They have zero say in their leagues. For some, if they move for 2017 it would be their 3rd league in 4 years years.

a

Aug 31, 2016 - 11:02AM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

MPDHL Premier is far superior to EHF at the Midget half season level. Teams qualify for Nattys through the MPDHL. There is no Elite 9/BHL after U14. Midget teams are already in the MPDHL

So, the question is, can they build the brand below Midgets?

None of these programs mentioned are strong at the youth level. They have zero say in their leagues. For some, if they move for 2017 it would be their 3rd league in 4 years years.

Top EHF team gets invited for the playoffs to go to nationals just like the top MPDHL teams and the top EHF teams historically have no problem competing...the lower end not so much.

a

Aug 31, 2016 - 11:25AM

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anything HS age is a different topic. By this point you pretty much weed out the lower level kids who end up going back to town hockey for the 2 months before they play D2-3 HS or if they are lucky D1 JV teams.

a

Aug 31, 2016 - 2:09PM

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I just don't understand, whatsoever, why ANY team from the E9 or EHF would go over to the MPDHL, or whatever they intend to rename it?? At the ages that I've seen play, that league is so much weaker than the E9 and EHF, with the exception of maybe 1 team per age group at the highest level. Most of those teams would have a hard time competing with the EMHL. Maybe I'm wrong here, but the most experience I've had was playing a MPDHL "Elite" team, and it was a complete joke, I think it was 7-0 after the 1st period.

a

Aug 31, 2016 - 2:17PM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

I just don't understand, whatsoever, why ANY team from the E9 or EHF would go over to the MPDHL, or whatever they intend to rename it?? At the ages that I've seen play, that league is so much weaker than the E9 and EHF, with the exception of maybe 1 team per age group at the highest level. Most of those teams would have a hard time competing with the EMHL. Maybe I'm wrong here, but the most experience I've had was playing a MPDHL "Elite" team, and it was a complete joke, I think it was 7-0 after the 1st period.

100% right and that is why if these teams choose to leave they will close up shop soon because kids and parents still want the FED/E9 and not some upstart league with organizations that have mediocre at best youth programs. If owners really cared about low fees then everyone would join the EJEPL. cheapest league to get into and already rolling along.

a

Sep 1, 2016 - 12:59PM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

I just don't understand, whatsoever, why ANY team from the E9 or EHF would go over to the MPDHL, or whatever they intend to rename it?? At the ages that I've seen play, that league is so much weaker than the E9 and EHF, with the exception of maybe 1 team per age group at the highest level. Most of those teams would have a hard time competing with the EMHL. Maybe I'm wrong here, but the most experience I've had was playing a MPDHL "Elite" team, and it was a complete joke, I think it was 7-0 after the 1st period.

Yes you're wrong stupid. Stop trashing MPDHL when you know nothing of the league. The "1" teams are called Premier. The "2" teams are called Elite. Most of these premier teams are same level as Tier1 Fed, or Tier1 E9. There is nothing elite about MPDHL's elite bracket, perhaps town B-C level players. The biggest joke of a league is EMHL hands down, full of players like town C-D level.

a

Sep 1, 2016 - 2:32PM

Re: MPDHL no longer

anon

Anon

I just don't understand, whatsoever, why ANY team from the E9 or EHF would go over to the MPDHL, or whatever they intend to rename it?? At the ages that I've seen play, that league is so much weaker than the E9 and EHF, with the exception of maybe 1 team per age group at the highest level. Most of those teams would have a hard time competing with the EMHL. Maybe I'm wrong here, but the most experience I've had was playing a MPDHL "Elite" team, and it was a complete joke, I think it was 7-0 after the 1st period.

Yes you're wrong stupid. Stop trashing MPDHL when you know nothing of the league. The "1" teams are called Premier. The "2" teams are called Elite. Most of these premier teams are same level as Tier1 Fed, or Tier1 E9. There is nothing elite about MPDHL's elite bracket, perhaps town B-C level players. The biggest joke of a league is EMHL hands down, full of players like town C-D level.

"Yes you're wrong stupid", the intellect on this board never ceases to amaze me, can't have a discussion without turning to insults when things don't go your way. Just for a point of reference, and I'm not a MPDHL expert, or even a FED or E9 expert, like yourself, all I know is what I see with my own eyes. Which is simply that the "elite" team we played most recently was nonsense, and from what I've seen of the "premier" teams, it's not much better. So, again, I do not stay home and study film of all of the FED, E9, and MPDHL teams, so as to keep my flow chart updated, like yourself, but just what I see and hear around the rink. I'm sorry that I struck such a nerve and apparently insulted your love for the MPDHL, I will certainly try to be more aware of my comments in the future so as to not offend you and those who choose to pledge allegiance to the league. I will also be attending some sensitivity training in the near future to address my hateful comments. Godspeed.

a

Sep 1, 2016 - 10:13PM

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The top premier teams are basically the equivalent of the top tier 1 teams in the EHF, same as BHL American. Agree that anything below premier is a waste of money for parents.

a

Sep 1, 2016 - 10:16PM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

The top premier teams are basically the equivalent of the top tier 1 teams in the EHF, same as BHL American. Agree that anything below premier is a waste of money for parents.

Maybe so, but probably only the top two teams. There is not much depth and the rest of the league will be at a level below, more equivalent to BHL National or Tier 1 White.

a

Sep 1, 2016 - 10:42PM

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Mphl is a joke because whoever runs it is a moron!! Last year they had an 05 Sprinfield team that got killed every game by 15 + goals in the top division "premiere". The kids would be crying, humiliated and down right embarrassed every game! We felt so bad for those kids. The kids would have to drive 4-6 hours for away games to get kicked over and over. Plus other teams had to drive the same distance to kill another team. They wouldn't drop them down they wouldn't call mercy half way through... We would have our top players stay home and have lower half of the team mandatory pass 3 times and still kill them. It was awful. The second half of that 05 premier league was awful ..!! I am assume other age groups were the same. Our team left no way we were doing that again.

a

Sep 2, 2016 - 9:49AM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

Mphl is a joke because whoever runs it is a moron!! Last year they had an 05 Sprinfield team that got killed every game by 15 + goals in the top division "premiere". The kids would be crying, humiliated and down right embarrassed every game! We felt so bad for those kids. The kids would have to drive 4-6 hours for away games to get kicked over and over. Plus other teams had to drive the same distance to kill another team. They wouldn't drop them down they wouldn't call mercy half way through... We would have our top players stay home and have lower half of the team mandatory pass 3 times and still kill them. It was awful. The second half of that 05 premier league was awful ..!! I am assume other age groups were the same. Our team left no way we were doing that again.

Exactly! So, back to original topic, why would teams leave the E9, BHL Amer., and FED Tier 1 Black to go to this debacle of a "league"??

a

Sep 2, 2016 - 10:32AM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

Anon

Mphl is a joke because whoever runs it is a moron!! Last year they had an 05 Sprinfield team that got killed every game by 15 + goals in the top division "premiere". The kids would be crying, humiliated and down right embarrassed every game! We felt so bad for those kids. The kids would have to drive 4-6 hours for away games to get kicked over and over. Plus other teams had to drive the same distance to kill another team. They wouldn't drop them down they wouldn't call mercy half way through... We would have our top players stay home and have lower half of the team mandatory pass 3 times and still kill them. It was awful. The second half of that 05 premier league was awful ..!! I am assume other age groups were the same. Our team left no way we were doing that again.

Exactly! So, back to original topic, why would teams leave the E9, BHL Amer., and FED Tier 1 Black to go to this debacle of a "league"??

Because the Fed is moving the better teams to the USPHL (separate thread) to broaden their geographic footprint and create teams that at least theoretically can compete with the Little Caesar's and Belle Tire's. The top talent in the E9 will find that attractive. so the E9/BHL and the EHF teams that aren't invited to the USPHL party have to develop a counter-move to the expanded MPDHL, EJEPL and possibly T1EHL.

a

Sep 2, 2016 - 10:47AM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

Anon

Anon

Mphl is a joke because whoever runs it is a moron!! Last year they had an 05 Sprinfield team that got killed every game by 15 + goals in the top division "premiere". The kids would be crying, humiliated and down right embarrassed every game! We felt so bad for those kids. The kids would have to drive 4-6 hours for away games to get kicked over and over. Plus other teams had to drive the same distance to kill another team. They wouldn't drop them down they wouldn't call mercy half way through... We would have our top players stay home and have lower half of the team mandatory pass 3 times and still kill them. It was awful. The second half of that 05 premier league was awful ..!! I am assume other age groups were the same. Our team left no way we were doing that again.

Exactly! So, back to original topic, why would teams leave the E9, BHL Amer., and FED Tier 1 Black to go to this debacle of a "league"??

Because the Fed is moving the better teams to the USPHL (separate thread) to broaden their geographic footprint and create teams that at least theoretically can compete with the Little Caesar's and Belle Tire's. The top talent in the E9 will find that attractive. so the E9/BHL and the EHF teams that aren't invited to the USPHL party have to develop a counter-move to the expanded MPDHL, EJEPL and possibly T1EHL.

USPHL is smart to do this! It will feed into their u16/u18 and jr programs. Also increase revenue through affiliate programs (FED) that may allow them to move Jr programs into tier 2 ( no pay to play) to compete with NAHL and USHL.

Think of all the eastern kids who will stay home for JR's, live at home, finish school with their friends and still play at a high level, right in the back yard of all the colleges they are interested in attending. Not to mention all the other players from around the country and overseas, who all want to play college hockey in the east.

The lower level teams ( and affiliates) will pay a little more, but with the pathway right in front of them, will not make a peep about it.

a

Aug 31, 2016 - 9:40AM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

Anon

Anon

Anon

why would any teams leave the FED or E9 to join this league? its not like competition is going to get better on these lower level town teams.

The best thing about this board is all the ignorance .

that was enlightening. Please bless us with your wisdom and answer the question. All these teams already have option for tier 1 and elite. What would Fed and E9 teams move to this league when the MPDHL teams already cant compete with FEd or E9 teams?

The ignorance I speak of is your last sentence .....

There are plenty of kids in MPDHL , EJEPL and other leagues that are just as good as some of the FED elite kids . Be thankful they didn't could you imagine if every FED team had 200 kids at each age level for tryouts and was the only league around , trust me when I say if this was the case your kid would not be playing . There are plenty of good players in other leagues .

hurts when others are correct and your kid cant cut it in the FED or E9. there isnt one MDPHL, EJ or other NE league teams that compete with Fed or E9 teams on a regular basis. Sure they may win a game or 2 but is that what you really want? Of course there are kids that are just as good on these other teams but there maybe 1 or 2. not enough and thats what we are talking about here. The EJ showcase this weekend showed that when local town teams can go 500 or better then you have a problem calling yourself elite.

a

Aug 31, 2016 - 6:07PM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Max Pro...

a

Aug 31, 2016 - 8:13PM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Not happening this year, but it's definitely happening next year and the effect will be complete opposite of what captain Fed is preaching here. They are adding a Tier 1 level, not to be confused with the feds tier 2 level that they just name tier 1 for ego purposes.

Think about it. Your kid plays on a crappy fed tier 1 afterthought team. I'm talking to you caps, Kings, top gun, bandits, basically everyone in that league at the second level. If your kid is any good on a fed tier 1 team or a bottom feeder on an EHF elite team having an option that is between the top fed teams and their joke of a tier 1 level you're opting to play a legit tier 1 team all day long instead of being on a number two team option in a tier 2 league. It's a no-brainer that the competition level will only increase because of this in that new league.

This move basically eliminates the second levels in both the Fed and E9/BHL Now whether it continues to water down hockey in the area in general is a totally different discussion.

Boston stars, Crimson and other crappy programs are all getting the boot. They will end up in the EMHL, and affiliate of the fed.

A real data point to consider is the top four teams at the premier level in the MPDHL have competed against the top tier 1 teams in the Fed as well as too BHL teams and beat the tar out of the mid to lower level teams in both leagues for the last few years.

Fact.

Sorry but unless at the elite level the Fed is now just any old joke of a league.

a

Aug 31, 2016 - 11:57PM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

Not happening this year, but it's definitely happening next year and the effect will be complete opposite of what captain Fed is preaching here. They are adding a Tier 1 level, not to be confused with the feds tier 2 level that they just name tier 1 for ego purposes.

Think about it. Your kid plays on a crappy fed tier 1 afterthought team. I'm talking to you caps, Kings, top gun, bandits, basically everyone in that league at the second level. If your kid is any good on a fed tier 1 team or a bottom feeder on an EHF elite team having an option that is between the top fed teams and their joke of a tier 1 level you're opting to play a legit tier 1 team all day long instead of being on a number two team option in a tier 2 league. It's a no-brainer that the competition level will only increase because of this in that new league.

This move basically eliminates the second levels in both the Fed and E9/BHL Now whether it continues to water down hockey in the area in general is a totally different discussion.

Boston stars, Crimson and other crappy programs are all getting the boot. They will end up in the EMHL, and affiliate of the fed.

A real data point to consider is the top four teams at the premier level in the MPDHL have competed against the top tier 1 teams in the Fed as well as too BHL teams and beat the tar out of the mid to lower level teams in both leagues for the last few years.

Fact.

Sorry but unless at the elite level the Fed is now just any old joke of a league.

You do know that Tier 1 EHF and BHL are equivalent to town B teams, and the lower level teams in both leagues are kids who were cut from town B Teams ? othing to beat your chest about !

s

Sep 1, 2016 - 7:54AM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

Anon

Not happening this year, but it's definitely happening next year and the effect will be complete opposite of what captain Fed is preaching here. They are adding a Tier 1 level, not to be confused with the feds tier 2 level that they just name tier 1 for ego purposes.

Think about it. Your kid plays on a crappy fed tier 1 afterthought team. I'm talking to you caps, Kings, top gun, bandits, basically everyone in that league at the second level. If your kid is any good on a fed tier 1 team or a bottom feeder on an EHF elite team having an option that is between the top fed teams and their joke of a tier 1 level you're opting to play a legit tier 1 team all day long instead of being on a number two team option in a tier 2 league. It's a no-brainer that the competition level will only increase because of this in that new league.

This move basically eliminates the second levels in both the Fed and E9/BHL Now whether it continues to water down hockey in the area in general is a totally different discussion.

Boston stars, Crimson and other crappy programs are all getting the boot. They will end up in the EMHL, and affiliate of the fed.

A real data point to consider is the top four teams at the premier level in the MPDHL have competed against the top tier 1 teams in the Fed as well as too BHL teams and beat the tar out of the mid to lower level teams in both leagues for the last few years.

Fact.

Sorry but unless at the elite level the Fed is now just any old joke of a league.

You do know that Tier 1 EHF and BHL are equivalent to town B teams, and the lower level teams in both leagues are kids who were cut from town B Teams ? othing to beat your chest about !

Actually what i found from competition and knowing players at the different levels is Tier 1 Black and BHL american are more Town A teams and the White and National are more B level with the EMHL rounding out the bottom dwellers and C teams.

a

Sep 1, 2016 - 10:30AM

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More accurate

a

Sep 2, 2016 - 10:50AM

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Agree

a

Sep 2, 2016 - 9:16PM

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Not a chance. Look at the joke of USPHL teams at youth level. Crappy and mid tier 2 teams last year trying to play up. Fed won't fall for this and doesn't change. Sorry.

a

Sep 3, 2016 - 6:31PM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

Not a chance. Look at the joke of USPHL teams at youth level. Crappy and mid tier 2 teams last year trying to play up. Fed won't fall for this and doesn't change. Sorry.

You are wrong and it is already happening! The major players in the USHL are some of the Major players in the FED. Tier 2 Jr hockey is already making it's way into New England. The wheels are in motion. It probably won't affect you much although your annual tuition is going to go up as are the rest of the lower level players tuition. The good thing is your kid will finally be playing in the top FED league and you can brag at work.

a

Sep 4, 2016 - 12:51AM

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Tier 2 Junior hockey does not have a chance in New England. Jersey Hitmen lost to the Kings today 10 to nothing. Good luck in your new league!

a

Aug 31, 2016 - 8:03AM

Re: MPDHL no longer

Anon

why would any teams leave the FED or E9 to join this league? its not like competition is going to get better on these lower level town teams.

All teams will be able to have an elite and tier 1 team.