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Frustrated
Nov 18, 2016 - 5:40PM
Benders

What do I do if the team has a couple kids that are out of place? They dont belong at the elite level? Any advice? How would you approach the coach?

Thanks Dboard!

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Anon
Nov 18, 2016 - 5:45PM
Re: Benders

Frustrated
What do I do if the team has a couple kids that are out of place? They dont belong at the elite level? Any advice? How would you approach the coach?

Thanks Dboard!


Offer to pay for their tuition loss, because that is why they are there ?

I doubt it was a situation where they took them over better available players, they took them because the needed them.

What level we talking, because there are ways to approach this under certain circumstances ?

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Frustrated
Nov 18, 2016 - 6:49PM
Re: Benders

05 EHF Elite

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Anon
Nov 18, 2016 - 6:54PM
Re: Benders

Frustrated
05 EHF Elite


Kings?

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Anon
Nov 18, 2016 - 8:31PM
Re: Benders

Because elite isn't really elite?

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Frustrated
Nov 18, 2016 - 9:35PM
Re: Benders

Just aggravating to watch kids who dont belong at the elite level. I think the coach should should not,play them. It is painful when we play top level teams...should the coach reduce their ice time?

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Anon
Nov 18, 2016 - 11:23PM
Re: Benders

But I thought there were no Benders in EHF Elite!?!?
I saw a top 5 EHF team play recently and honestly 3/4 of those kids would be average at best in the E9.

Frustrated- I would ask the coach his opinion of the team and if he has any plans to improve the team. No need to call out kids to him. I was in a simular situation and the coach made it clear if the right kids became available he would not hesitate to upgrade.

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Anon
Nov 19, 2016 - 7:45AM
Re: Benders

Anon
But I thought there were no Benders in EHF Elite!?!?
I saw a top 5 EHF team play recently and honestly 3/4 of those kids would be average at best in the E9.

Frustrated- I would ask the coach his opinion of the team and if he has any plans to improve the team. No need to call out kids to him. I was in a simular situation and the coach made it clear if the right kids became available he would not hesitate to upgrade.
Of course the coach will upgrade. Every coach will, given the opportunity. Including a coach down the line that will upgrade the OP's bender.

OP: unless you have some background in talent evaluation, you're a douche. Worry about your own little Gretzky. Wah, wah, my kid isn't scoring because his linemates suck. Or wah, wah, my kid's team would be higher in the MHR rankings if the coach wouldn't play these other kids.

Here's your thought for the day. It isn't "elite hockey." It's the highest level of local recreational hockey. I know you don't want to accept that, but it's true. Players aren't elite until someone is paying them to play, either directly or by providing educational benefits.

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Anon
Nov 19, 2016 - 8:18AM
Re: Benders

You sir have just restored my faith in the dboard. Best, most accurate, post in a very long time. You can't hear it, but I'm clapping.....

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Anon
Nov 19, 2016 - 12:37PM
Re: Benders

Sorry your KID will be CUT IN MARCH!!!

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Anon
Nov 19, 2016 - 12:39PM
Re: Benders

Anon
You sir have just restored my faith in the dboard. Best, most accurate, post in a very long time. You can't hear it, but I'm clapping.....


Why are you on the site? Why are you paying a premium to have your child play on a "elite" team?

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Frustrated
Nov 19, 2016 - 2:19PM
Re: Benders

Thank God for the Dboard! I am going to talk to the coach tomorrow and see what his plan will to improve the team. If i dont like the answer, I will try to undermine his authority so he will get fired. At least the benders will be gone and he will be done! Great advice from the Dboard.

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Anon
Nov 19, 2016 - 4:46PM
Re: Benders

Real issue on our team. Owners don't care about skill or ability. They care about money. Three extra benders is $9k.

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Anon
Nov 19, 2016 - 9:36PM
Re: Benders

Anon
Real issue on our team. Owners don't care about skill or ability. They care about money. Three extra benders is $9k.


TG?

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anon
Nov 20, 2016 - 4:18AM
Re: Benders

OP....are you really asking this question. At the 05 level??? First off, it's a business. Go tell the coach someone else's kid doesn't belong and it might just get you an unwanted evaluation of your own kid or better yet your walking papers. Then you'll find yourself scrambling to find a new team....with guess what......the same situation ...... because.....it's a business! Focus on your own elite kid and enjoy watching him play. He will be in a beer league sooner than you think reaching into the cooler with those same benders you're dying to talk to the coach about. Fact.

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Anon
Nov 20, 2016 - 6:35AM
Re: Benders

anon
OP....are you really asking this question. At the 05 level??? First off, it's a business. Go tell the coach someone else's kid doesn't belong and it might just get you an unwanted evaluation of your own kid or better yet your walking papers. Then you'll find yourself scrambling to find a new team....with guess what......the same situation ...... because.....it's a business! Focus on your own elite kid and enjoy watching him play. He will be in a beer league sooner than you think reaching into the cooler with those same benders you're dying to talk to the coach about. Fact.


You sound angry! Maybe you were a bender, then a daddy coach of benders and your kid is carring on the bender tradition. You must have been undermined by parents of true elite players whose kids are NHL bound. Its ok that your dreams are crushed. the world needs people to dig holes and fill them up.

j
Just sayin'
Nov 22, 2016 - 3:06PM
Re: Benders

Frustrated
Just aggravating to watch kids who dont belong at the elite level. I think the coach should should not,play them. It is painful when we play top level teams...should the coach reduce their ice time?


I find it astonishing that a parent would even have this thought cross their mind. "kids who don't belong at the elite level"... I'm 99.9% confident you're just a "dad". Just like everyone else. Why do you bother evaluating any other kid but your own? If you really want an "elite" team and you think your kid is elite simply build your own team. Put all the top kids you've so carefully evaluated with your incredible eye for talent and put together an independent schedule. Plenty of tournaments and teams that will play. There's nothing worse than a "has been" or "never was" on his soap box about a kid that isn't up to snuff. It will work itself out. Keep your cake hole shut and focus little jimmy on his own opportunities to get better. Generally people who complain are the ones looking to point fingers and not take accountability.
Just sayin...

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anon
Nov 22, 2016 - 4:35PM
Re: Benders

Just sayin'
Frustrated
Just aggravating to watch kids who dont belong at the elite level. I think the coach should should not,play them. It is painful when we play top level teams...should the coach reduce their ice time?


I find it astonishing that a parent would even have this thought cross their mind. "kids who don't belong at the elite level"... I'm 99.9% confident you're just a "dad". Just like everyone else. Why do you bother evaluating any other kid but your own? If you really want an "elite" team and you think your kid is elite simply build your own team. Put all the top kids you've so carefully evaluated with your incredible eye for talent and put together an independent schedule. Plenty of tournaments and teams that will play. There's nothing worse than a "has been" or "never was" on his soap box about a kid that isn't up to snuff. It will work itself out. Keep your cake hole shut and focus little jimmy on his own opportunities to get better. Generally people who complain are the ones looking to point fingers and not take accountability.
Just sayin...


kids who don't belong at the elite level should go back to town and stop taking ice time from kids that do belong. how will anybody get better when there are kids who cant execute, compete and think at the elite level. they can play for their town team and get a star sticker for a great job! just sayin...

j
Just sayin'
Nov 22, 2016 - 4:52PM
Re: Benders

anon
Just sayin'
Frustrated
Just aggravating to watch kids who dont belong at the elite level. I think the coach should should not,play them. It is painful when we play top level teams...should the coach reduce their ice time?


I find it astonishing that a parent would even have this thought cross their mind. "kids who don't belong at the elite level"... I'm 99.9% confident you're just a "dad". Just like everyone else. Why do you bother evaluating any other kid but your own? If you really want an "elite" team and you think your kid is elite simply build your own team. Put all the top kids you've so carefully evaluated with your incredible eye for talent and put together an independent schedule. Plenty of tournaments and teams that will play. There's nothing worse than a "has been" or "never was" on his soap box about a kid that isn't up to snuff. It will work itself out. Keep your cake hole shut and focus little jimmy on his own opportunities to get better. Generally people who complain are the ones looking to point fingers and not take accountability.
Just sayin...


kids who don't belong at the elite level should go back to town and stop taking ice time from kids that do belong. how will anybody get better when there are kids who cant execute, compete and think at the elite level. they can play for their town team and get a star sticker for a great job! just sayin...


Listen to you...kids who can't execute. I understand what you're "sayin'", but you really have no skill to evaluate talent level. I can tell just by your tripe rhetoric. Just sayin'

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Anon
Nov 22, 2016 - 6:06PM
Re: Benders

How do you know I don't know how to evaluate talent? That's right, I know you! Your the chubby mother of that bender with the long hair wearing the brown and orange plaid pants 3 inches to short. I thought eating tree bark was a great weight loss strategy? Why is it not working for you hon? Just wondering...

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beatcuff
Nov 23, 2016 - 8:52AM
Re: Benders

Anon
How do you know I don't know how to evaluate talent?
we don't, and maybe you are best at evaluating, but we do know you are on this board instead of showing some stones and telling 'those' parents --- maybe me included, they don't belong. i'd love to see your reaction when i respond 'yes my kid sucks but i know it, what are you going to do about it'. i'll answer for you --- nothing. yes, i have done it before, it really shuts people like you down.

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Anon
Nov 23, 2016 - 9:22AM
Re: Benders

True talent doesn't get "held back" by the performance (or non-performance) of others.

If you're using this as an excuse you haven't come to the realization your kid isn't as good as you think he is.

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Anon
Nov 23, 2016 - 9:50AM
Re: Benders

Anon
True talent doesn't get "held back" by the performance (or non-performance) of others.

If you're using this as an excuse you haven't come to the realization your kid isn't as good as you think he is.


quoted again for emphasis !!

most accurate post yet !!!

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anon
Nov 23, 2016 - 9:24AM
Re: Benders

beatcuff
Anon
How do you know I don't know how to evaluate talent?
we don't, and maybe you are best at evaluating, but we do know you are on this board instead of showing some stones and telling 'those' parents --- maybe me included, they don't belong. i'd love to see your reaction when i respond 'yes my kid sucks but i know it, what are you going to do about it'. i'll answer for you --- nothing. yes, i have done it before, it really shuts people like you down.


It wont shut me down or shut me up. I don't care! I will make sure your kid is cut if he sucks. At least we are on the same page!

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Anon
Nov 23, 2016 - 9:53AM
Re: Benders

anon
beatcuff
Anon
How do you know I don't know how to evaluate talent?
we don't, and maybe you are best at evaluating, but we do know you are on this board instead of showing some stones and telling 'those' parents --- maybe me included, they don't belong. i'd love to see your reaction when i respond 'yes my kid sucks but i know it, what are you going to do about it'. i'll answer for you --- nothing. yes, i have done it before, it really shuts people like you down.


It wont shut me down or shut me up. I don't care! I will make sure your kid is cut if he sucks. At least we are on the same page!



Don't mess with this guy. He's going to make sure all your kids get cut. All from that spot at the corner of the glass. Or maybe top of the stands. You've been warned!

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Anon
Nov 23, 2016 - 10:15AM
Re: Benders

Hey buddy, two years from now when your kid decides he doesn't want to play anymore because dad is overbearing are you still going to come on and post?

You are clearly the parent of an 06, 05 or 04 and this is your first kid. You will learn young Luke Skywalker.

j
Just sayin'
Nov 23, 2016 - 10:18AM
Re: Benders

Anon
anon
beatcuff
Anon
How do you know I don't know how to evaluate talent?
we don't, and maybe you are best at evaluating, but we do know you are on this board instead of showing some stones and telling 'those' parents --- maybe me included, they don't belong. i'd love to see your reaction when i respond 'yes my kid sucks but i know it, what are you going to do about it'. i'll answer for you --- nothing. yes, i have done it before, it really shuts people like you down.


It wont shut me down or shut me up. I don't care! I will make sure your kid is cut if he sucks. At least we are on the same page!



You sir...are the bender. Never mind the kids on the team. They should (and do) cut your family. Your kid will ultimately pay the price whether he's a star or not. Maybe he's great, who knows. Attitude and character will serve as a difference maker when all things finally equal out. Attitude reflects leadership, dad. Just sayin'...

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anon
Nov 23, 2016 - 11:24AM
Re: Benders

I don't understand why this thread has created all this emotion? I would guess it is better for the boys to be in the right situation. If they struggle, then they should be in a better place to succeed? Even if it means they get cut. I understand Frustrated and his/her position. just saying...

j
Just sayin'
Nov 23, 2016 - 11:41AM
Re: Benders

anon
I don't understand why this thread has created all this emotion? I would guess it is better for the boys to be in the right situation. If they struggle, then they should be in a better place to succeed? Even if it means they get cut. I understand Frustrated and his/her position. just saying...

It is better to be in the right situation. No doubt. Look back at my posts. I do understand that frustration.But why does a parent need to stick their nose in it? It will work itself out. It's clearly a case of someone who feels inadequate and anxious about their own self worth. Just sayin'...

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anon
Nov 23, 2016 - 1:52PM
Re: Benders

parents suck and they ruin it for the kids. whether they are benders or all-stars, does not matter, they all suck!

especially if the kid is a bender because they are aware that everybody is talking about them behind there back when the kid does not belong on the ice...

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Anon
Nov 23, 2016 - 10:58PM
Re: Benders

I agree that the parents ruin the experience for the kids. Bender or not, this is youth hockey and it should be fun for the kids.

a
Anon
Nov 29, 2016 - 11:07PM
Re: Benders

Saw a bunch of benders down in Springfield this past weekend. These kids are not "elite"!

a
Anon
Nov 30, 2016 - 7:35AM
Re: Benders

Anon
Saw a bunch of benders down in Springfield this past weekend. These kids are not "elite"!

Your kid included of course! Maybe they just dont have strong ankles yet?

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Iceman
Dec 1, 2016 - 7:20PM
Re: Benders

Bunch of benders got lit up by a BHL team...frustrated

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Anon
Dec 2, 2016 - 11:40PM
Re: Benders

Just curious, how does an ehf elite team get smacked around by a tier 2 bhl team?

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anon
Nov 23, 2016 - 9:24AM
Re: Benders

anon


kids who don't belong at the elite level should go back to town and stop taking ice time from kids that do belong. how will anybody get better when there are kids who cant execute, compete and think at the elite level. they can play for their town team and get a star sticker for a great job! just sayin...

How'd they get a spot on the team? The fact is they are either just as good as your little Crosby or your "elite" team isn't elite enough to attract enough talent to fill the roster with kids who are as amazing as your perfect little athlete. You are just like every other loser hockey dad that will have a washed up wannabe by 15 - go ahead and blame everyone else for failure. If you want your kid to have any shot in this sport you need to let go of the victim attitude and focus on what your son can do to improve results. You won't though because you are a born loser so finish smoking your lung dart, head back into the trailer, wrap up that episode of Springer you're working on and start training little Gretzky to score you 40s from the fridge.

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Anon
Nov 20, 2016 - 10:26AM
Re: Benders

Frustrated
What do I do if the team has a couple kids that are out of place? They dont belong at the elite level? Any advice? How would you approach the coach?

Thanks Dboard!


You don't. It's youth hockey. Idiot.

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Anon
Nov 20, 2016 - 5:20PM
Re: Benders

Youth hockey is about development of elite talent, not getting a ribbon for particiption. Its ok, you dont belong! Go play soccer with the town kids meatlick...

a
Anon
Nov 20, 2016 - 8:33PM
Re: Benders

Anon
Youth hockey is about development of elite talent, not getting a ribbon for particiption. Its ok, you dont belong! Go play soccer with the town kids meatlick...
No it's not, it's about participation. That's why we have so many teams. Participation = profits. If it were about development you wouldn't see 70 game schedules at the Mite level. At some point you will understand that you have to go outside of your team to develop your kid. Or he won't be "elite" by age 16.

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Anon
Nov 20, 2016 - 10:10PM
Re: Benders

Anon
Youth hockey is about development of elite talent, not getting a ribbon for particiption. Its ok, you dont belong! Go play soccer with the town kids meatlick...


Yea, Too bad there are only about 20 "elite" kids at each age level in all of New England ! So, sit back and act accordingly !

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Anon
Dec 3, 2016 - 7:07PM
Re: Benders

What do you do if 95% of a team is out of place and has teenagers upstairs assuring you that it will get better despite them having no experience?

Signed,
Boch parent

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Anon
Dec 5, 2016 - 12:09AM
Re: Benders

Anon
What do you do if 95% of a team is out of place and has teenagers upstairs assuring you that it will get better despite them having no experience?

Signed,
Boch parent


Stick around... it will get better !

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