This discussion belongs on the Town Hockey board. Club teams don't care about patches, they know the're meaningless.
Is the EHF going to enforce this???
My neighbor coached a town hockey team for years and he attended these weekend seminars to keep getting to the next level of 'patches.' Let me tell you, he's a great guy, always helpful, kind and a good friend but he does not know the first thing about hockey or coaching any sport let alone hockey.
Most 'hockey guys' chuckle at the concept that somehow spending a weekend sitting in a room surrounded by other hockey dads and how it could possibly make you a viable hockey coach. Let's be real, it is an effort but it will always fall short of being meaningful. Anyone who stands up and demands that the dad behind the bench should go out of his way to sit around some weekend with other hockey dads is totally lost.
I don't think the OP was saying it was useful or meaningful (it's a waste and a money grab), just required for insurance purposes. Despite being a bit of a DB, I think the point is that if a kid is seriously injured and the coach is not certified, there might be an issue with your USA Hockey insurance. I have no idea if this is true or not but potentially a valid concern. I can say with first hand experience, when my son was hurt our health insurance company went after USA Hockey for reimbursement for the xrays, MRI, doctors visits, etc. I have no idea what the outcome would have been if the coaches, ref's, etc. weren't certified.
The bottom line is it's a requirement - so do it.
If getting certified to be a coach is too much of a hassle - then don't coach - just bring your kid to the rink and enjoy the game. Being a coach has a few responsibilities, certification is one - its not difficult, but if you're too lazy to do it - don't coach.
And, if you're not going to do it as a coach, you shouldn't have any grounds to ask me to register my player with USA hockey either - since it's such a waste of time - why should I have to spend the $40 for that if you won't?
The $40 player registration money is your insurance.
My kids coaches coaches are all certified. What that tells me is they are stand up and do what is asked
ost coaches coach so their kid can play at that level
Wow. Shocked to com eon here today and not read any new posts about all of teh coaches that were let go due to expired certificates !!! Told ya !
Not even close. and trust me; my level 5 cert doesn't make me a better coach than when I didn't have it !
Show me a coach that follows all the USA Hockey off ice and on ice requirements and I'll show you a Town B coach.
No direct correlation between coaching ability and bureaucracy. And if I ever have to rely upon USA Hockey insurance I'm an awful father and provider.
BTW, I'm patched to Level 3...and learned zero. So spare me the "lazy" BS.
Lots and Lots of team jackets, hats and sweatshirts being worn at those classes that's for sure !!!
I compare the certification to having a fishing license. Someone took the time to go down and pay the money and register for a fishing licence. It's good to have, it might be required, the fees go to a good cause, there's some reassurance to have it on you incase the Environmental Police ask you for it...but having it makes you no better of a fishermen, can't show you how to fish or what equipment to use, where to fish, which fish are better eating.
And those who have a fishing licence never seem to stand up and expouse the virtues of having it and how it enhances their knowledge of fishing.
a lot of coaches with cert think thay know everything and can do no wrong coaches coach the way they want to take it or leave it attitude
Again, its a minimal requirement - if it's too much for you, then get and stay off the bench.
Or as some of you would say it's a good "life lesson". Hypocrites.
level 3 certification. first two hours was listening to a guy draw a practice plan on the whiteboard. Same **** but not as good as the modules. total waste of time.
The problem is there are to many daddy coaches who have no fcking idea what they are doing. USA Hockey needs to step in and help these morons!
The people complaining that certification is a "waste of time" or "the same old thing" are just as guilty as the players who complain about practice and skills being "boring" and "the same old thing all the time"
...and the PLAYERS are actually probably right, since the whiny so-called coaches run the same drills all the time because they really have no workable and new knowledge on what else to do.
Again - the certification is a minimal about of effort and time asked in order to coach some kids - if you simply refuse to, can't, or think you're too smart to do it, then GET OFF THE BENCH - trust me, someone else will be happy to do it - the team will survive without you.
Maybe spend an afternoon watching BU practice, or the Bruins or a good junior team and watch a couple videos online or spend $50 and buy a stack of Canadian coaching DVD's. I've seen the town hockey 'coaches' that have more patches than they can count and there is no magic to it.
The certification is a participation trophy, no question about it. It in itself is a waste of time. The effort each coach puts into the job is a different story but you're not going to learn to coach from the seminar. I'd say MOST of the "Daddy coaches" you all refer to in the EHF and E9 all have some pretty good credentials. I don't see a single program reach out and pay coaches to coach, so what you're left with are volunteer dads who i'd say do a pretty **** good job.