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Re: E9

Anon
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I think if you offer more play-in opportunities you start to gain on the EHF, who is stuck with the 10 founding organizations and unable to trade out the dogs for better teams. A league made up of the 10 best E9/BHL teams (varying by age group), constructed from parity play, would be a better top-to-bottom league than EHF Elite, even though it would lack the strength of the top 2-3 EHF teams that attract the top talent from the area.
There could be parity followed by a short fall season with a redistribution say around the end of October where struggling teams get moved down and stronger teams get moved up. I know there is something like that in Girls hockey.


How about just some common sense? In the 04 example Patriots and Glades both had winning records in 15/16 and neither lost significant players. They should have been in for 16/17 regardless of any parity play-in. A team like the Rangers with 1 win in 15/16 should be not automatically in E9 for 16/17.

1 win in 2 seasons isn't good for anyone.

The E9 can't get out of its own way with how they have things set up. Let's hope they fix it moving forward.



This is the dumbest thing i heard on here this week. So the Breakers, Bandits, top gun and falcons , maybe Caps, arent a drain on the EHF either? there is a total of 4 teams from squirts to bantams that have a 500 record. across all of these organizations. why dont they get dropped from the "Elite" level since they are bad year after year. At least the E9 does move teams around to try and keep its levels competitive. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt but dont act like the EHF model is so much better when they have the exact same problem.

Re: E9

Anon
Anon
Anon
anon
I think if you offer more play-in opportunities you start to gain on the EHF, who is stuck with the 10 founding organizations and unable to trade out the dogs for better teams. A league made up of the 10 best E9/BHL teams (varying by age group), constructed from parity play, would be a better top-to-bottom league than EHF Elite, even though it would lack the strength of the top 2-3 EHF teams that attract the top talent from the area.
There could be parity followed by a short fall season with a redistribution say around the end of October where struggling teams get moved down and stronger teams get moved up. I know there is something like that in Girls hockey.


How about just some common sense? In the 04 example Patriots and Glades both had winning records in 15/16 and neither lost significant players. They should have been in for 16/17 regardless of any parity play-in. A team like the Rangers with 1 win in 15/16 should be not automatically in E9 for 16/17.

1 win in 2 seasons isn't good for anyone.

The E9 can't get out of its own way with how they have things set up. Let's hope they fix it moving forward.



This is the dumbest thing i heard on here this week. So the Breakers, Bandits, top gun and falcons , maybe Caps, arent a drain on the EHF either? there is a total of 4 teams from squirts to bantams that have a 500 record. across all of these organizations. why dont they get dropped from the "Elite" level since they are bad year after year. At least the E9 does move teams around to try and keep its levels competitive. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt but dont act like the EHF model is so much better when they have the exact same problem.
The EHF model IS better. What is saving the dogs in the EHF is the fact that the top few teams draw all the ultra high-end talent, so the league as a whole lives under that halo effect. What SHOULD be happening there is the bottom teams should be motivated to improve so they can compete in the league. But, since they know they can't compete with the top teams, there is no incentive since they're in no matter what. Add to that the fact that the EHF hides behind it's "no playing other leagues" rule, which I find ridiculous, and the bottom teams avoid being exposed. All that being said, the E9 definitely has areas to improve, it has all the pieces to be a much better league and it's good already.

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Rangers are out of E9? Is this right? Tier I EHF a better option than BHL. Higher level of hockey.

Re: E9

Anon
Rangers are out of E9? Is this right? Tier I EHF a better option than BHL. Higher level of hockey.


NO no one is out of the E9 they just reduced the play in for parity from 3 teams to 2 teams. No one is getting knocked out. They should be but Owner wont let it happen unless its necessary like the 07 team this year.

Re: E9

Anon
Anon
Rangers are out of E9? Is this right? Tier I EHF a better option than BHL. Higher level of hockey.


NO no one is out of the E9 they just reduced the play in for parity from 3 teams to 2 teams. No one is getting knocked out. They should be but Owner wont let it happen unless its necessary like the 07 team this year.
Correct, any E9 team can opt out if they feel they can't compete in a given year.

Re: E9

Anon
Rangers are out of E9? Is this right? Tier I EHF a better option than BHL. Higher level of hockey.


Quit drinking the Kool Aid EHF Tier 1 Dad ! This is a common theme that is thrown around here all willy nilly with no basis.

Several BHL teams played Tier 1 Black teams this year and overall it was a lot closer than anyone would have liked.

The Tier 1 White teams are below all of the BHl National Teams with the exception of the bottom few ! Fact !

Re: E9

Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
anon
I think if you offer more play-in opportunities you start to gain on the EHF, who is stuck with the 10 founding organizations and unable to trade out the dogs for better teams. A league made up of the 10 best E9/BHL teams (varying by age group), constructed from parity play, would be a better top-to-bottom league than EHF Elite, even though it would lack the strength of the top 2-3 EHF teams that attract the top talent from the area.
There could be parity followed by a short fall season with a redistribution say around the end of October where struggling teams get moved down and stronger teams get moved up. I know there is something like that in Girls hockey.


How about just some common sense? In the 04 example Patriots and Glades both had winning records in 15/16 and neither lost significant players. They should have been in for 16/17 regardless of any parity play-in. A team like the Rangers with 1 win in 15/16 should be not automatically in E9 for 16/17.

1 win in 2 seasons isn't good for anyone.

The E9 can't get out of its own way with how they have things set up. Let's hope they fix it moving forward.



This is the dumbest thing i heard on here this week. So the Breakers, Bandits, top gun and falcons , maybe Caps, arent a drain on the EHF either? there is a total of 4 teams from squirts to bantams that have a 500 record. across all of these organizations. why dont they get dropped from the "Elite" level since they are bad year after year. At least the E9 does move teams around to try and keep its levels competitive. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt but dont act like the EHF model is so much better when they have the exact same problem.
The EHF model IS better. What is saving the dogs in the EHF is the fact that the top few teams draw all the ultra high-end talent, so the league as a whole lives under that halo effect. What SHOULD be happening there is the bottom teams should be motivated to improve so they can compete in the league. But, since they know they can't compete with the top teams, there is no incentive since they're in no matter what. Add to that the fact that the EHF hides behind it's "no playing other leagues" rule, which I find ridiculous, and the bottom teams avoid being exposed. All that being said, the E9 definitely has areas to improve, it has all the pieces to be a much better league and it's good already.

The EHF model would be more effective if there wasn't a Q bid at the end of the road resulting in excessive player movement in squirts/peewee. If people didn't run around trying to concentrate talent onto one team 3 and 4 years in advance of PW major, the league would be much better off.

Re: E9

anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
anon
I think if you offer more play-in opportunities you start to gain on the EHF, who is stuck with the 10 founding organizations and unable to trade out the dogs for better teams. A league made up of the 10 best E9/BHL teams (varying by age group), constructed from parity play, would be a better top-to-bottom league than EHF Elite, even though it would lack the strength of the top 2-3 EHF teams that attract the top talent from the area.
There could be parity followed by a short fall season with a redistribution say around the end of October where struggling teams get moved down and stronger teams get moved up. I know there is something like that in Girls hockey.


How about just some common sense? In the 04 example Patriots and Glades both had winning records in 15/16 and neither lost significant players. They should have been in for 16/17 regardless of any parity play-in. A team like the Rangers with 1 win in 15/16 should be not automatically in E9 for 16/17.

1 win in 2 seasons isn't good for anyone.

The E9 can't get out of its own way with how they have things set up. Let's hope they fix it moving forward.



This is the dumbest thing i heard on here this week. So the Breakers, Bandits, top gun and falcons , maybe Caps, arent a drain on the EHF either? there is a total of 4 teams from squirts to bantams that have a 500 record. across all of these organizations. why dont they get dropped from the "Elite" level since they are bad year after year. At least the E9 does move teams around to try and keep its levels competitive. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt but dont act like the EHF model is so much better when they have the exact same problem.
The EHF model IS better. What is saving the dogs in the EHF is the fact that the top few teams draw all the ultra high-end talent, so the league as a whole lives under that halo effect. What SHOULD be happening there is the bottom teams should be motivated to improve so they can compete in the league. But, since they know they can't compete with the top teams, there is no incentive since they're in no matter what. Add to that the fact that the EHF hides behind it's "no playing other leagues" rule, which I find ridiculous, and the bottom teams avoid being exposed. All that being said, the E9 definitely has areas to improve, it has all the pieces to be a much better league and it's good already.

The EHF model would be more effective if there wasn't a Q bid at the end of the road resulting in excessive player movement in squirts/peewee. If people didn't run around trying to concentrate talent onto one team 3 and 4 years in advance of PW major, the league would be much better off.
Can't argue with that. Not sure where the emphasis on player development is here either. Both leagues have their issues, EHF seems concerned with constructing super-teams, not sure what that does for the other 90% of players in a given division.

Re: E9

Anon
anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
anon
I think if you offer more play-in opportunities you start to gain on the EHF, who is stuck with the 10 founding organizations and unable to trade out the dogs for better teams. A league made up of the 10 best E9/BHL teams (varying by age group), constructed from parity play, would be a better top-to-bottom league than EHF Elite, even though it would lack the strength of the top 2-3 EHF teams that attract the top talent from the area.
There could be parity followed by a short fall season with a redistribution say around the end of October where struggling teams get moved down and stronger teams get moved up. I know there is something like that in Girls hockey.


How about just some common sense? In the 04 example Patriots and Glades both had winning records in 15/16 and neither lost significant players. They should have been in for 16/17 regardless of any parity play-in. A team like the Rangers with 1 win in 15/16 should be not automatically in E9 for 16/17.

1 win in 2 seasons isn't good for anyone.

The E9 can't get out of its own way with how they have things set up. Let's hope they fix it moving forward.



This is the dumbest thing i heard on here this week. So the Breakers, Bandits, top gun and falcons , maybe Caps, arent a drain on the EHF either? there is a total of 4 teams from squirts to bantams that have a 500 record. across all of these organizations. why dont they get dropped from the "Elite" level since they are bad year after year. At least the E9 does move teams around to try and keep its levels competitive. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt but dont act like the EHF model is so much better when they have the exact same problem.
The EHF model IS better. What is saving the dogs in the EHF is the fact that the top few teams draw all the ultra high-end talent, so the league as a whole lives under that halo effect. What SHOULD be happening there is the bottom teams should be motivated to improve so they can compete in the league. But, since they know they can't compete with the top teams, there is no incentive since they're in no matter what. Add to that the fact that the EHF hides behind it's "no playing other leagues" rule, which I find ridiculous, and the bottom teams avoid being exposed. All that being said, the E9 definitely has areas to improve, it has all the pieces to be a much better league and it's good already.

The EHF model would be more effective if there wasn't a Q bid at the end of the road resulting in excessive player movement in squirts/peewee. If people didn't run around trying to concentrate talent onto one team 3 and 4 years in advance of PW major, the league would be much better off.
Can't argue with that. Not sure where the emphasis on player development is here either. EHF seems concerned with constructing super-teams, not sure what that does for the other 90% of players in a given division.

Very focused on developing the best peewee major team around. That can work out well for many kids (and it does), but it also can go the other way. The focus is going to be a little bit different if you're building for age 12. Maybe that's why the bottom falls out of the league at bantam and older.

Re: E9

Walpole Express Teams Accepted Into The Elite 9 And Boston Hockey League

Elite 9 HockeyWalpole, MA - The Walpole Express are excited to announce their acceptance into the Elite 9 (E9) / Boston Hockey League (BHL) for the 2017-2018 season. The E9 / BHL provides high level hockey for the top youth organizations in the area, and are considered one of the best leagues in New England. The Walpole Express will be hosting 2003-2009 Elite level teams.

Boston Hockey LeagueThe Walpole Express are the only USA Model program in New England boasting players ranging from 4 year old Little Engines to 20 year old Junior players. This past season saw 32 Walpole Express Junior players (24 boys and 8 girls) go on to play at the NCAA college level.

The Express are the only program in the area with 9 full-time professional coaches, in addition to our youth team coaches.

To be a part of the program, and participate in what is sure to be another competitive tryout season, register today!

www.elite9hockey.com
www.bostonhockeyleague.com

Re: E9

anon
Walpole Express Teams Accepted Into The Elite 9 And Boston Hockey League

Elite 9 HockeyWalpole, MA - The Walpole Express are excited to announce their acceptance into the Elite 9 (E9) / Boston Hockey League (BHL) for the 2017-2018 season. The E9 / BHL provides high level hockey for the top youth organizations in the area, and are considered one of the best leagues in New England. The Walpole Express will be hosting 2003-2009 Elite level teams.

Boston Hockey LeagueThe Walpole Express are the only USA Model program in New England boasting players ranging from 4 year old Little Engines to 20 year old Junior players. This past season saw 32 Walpole Express Junior players (24 boys and 8 girls) go on to play at the NCAA college level.

The Express are the only program in the area with 9 full-time professional coaches, in addition to our youth team coaches.

To be a part of the program, and participate in what is sure to be another competitive tryout season, register today!

www.elite9hockey.com
www.bostonhockeyleague.com



What is you point ? The CCTA was accepted in too and they don't even exits yet !!! Express will struggle to make it in to BHL National at most levels, and will be basement dwellers there initial season !

Re: E9

anon
Anon
anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
Anon
anon
I think if you offer more play-in opportunities you start to gain on the EHF, who is stuck with the 10 founding organizations and unable to trade out the dogs for better teams. A league made up of the 10 best E9/BHL teams (varying by age group), constructed from parity play, would be a better top-to-bottom league than EHF Elite, even though it would lack the strength of the top 2-3 EHF teams that attract the top talent from the area.
There could be parity followed by a short fall season with a redistribution say around the end of October where struggling teams get moved down and stronger teams get moved up. I know there is something like that in Girls hockey.


How about just some common sense? In the 04 example Patriots and Glades both had winning records in 15/16 and neither lost significant players. They should have been in for 16/17 regardless of any parity play-in. A team like the Rangers with 1 win in 15/16 should be not automatically in E9 for 16/17.

1 win in 2 seasons isn't good for anyone.

The E9 can't get out of its own way with how they have things set up. Let's hope they fix it moving forward.



This is the dumbest thing i heard on here this week. So the Breakers, Bandits, top gun and falcons , maybe Caps, arent a drain on the EHF either? there is a total of 4 teams from squirts to bantams that have a 500 record. across all of these organizations. why dont they get dropped from the "Elite" level since they are bad year after year. At least the E9 does move teams around to try and keep its levels competitive. Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt but dont act like the EHF model is so much better when they have the exact same problem.
The EHF model IS better. What is saving the dogs in the EHF is the fact that the top few teams draw all the ultra high-end talent, so the league as a whole lives under that halo effect. What SHOULD be happening there is the bottom teams should be motivated to improve so they can compete in the league. But, since they know they can't compete with the top teams, there is no incentive since they're in no matter what. Add to that the fact that the EHF hides behind it's "no playing other leagues" rule, which I find ridiculous, and the bottom teams avoid being exposed. All that being said, the E9 definitely has areas to improve, it has all the pieces to be a much better league and it's good already.

The EHF model would be more effective if there wasn't a Q bid at the end of the road resulting in excessive player movement in squirts/peewee. If people didn't run around trying to concentrate talent onto one team 3 and 4 years in advance of PW major, the league would be much better off.
Can't argue with that. Not sure where the emphasis on player development is here either. EHF seems concerned with constructing super-teams, not sure what that does for the other 90% of players in a given division.

Very focused on developing the best peewee major team around. That can work out well for many kids (and it does), but it also can go the other way. The focus is going to be a little bit different if you're building for age 12. Maybe that's why the bottom falls out of the league at bantam and older.
You're making a little too much sense. That won't fly around here!

Re: E9

good point

Re: E9

Read all of thread so you don't come off as illiterate
I understand your trying to justify spending all that cash on your lil Jonnie since you had such a stellar year up on Rt.1, if you read the whole thread you clearly would have seen this was response was to previous post Express dad (But wait E9! The Walpole Express will be there next season too)....Oh the BHL much better.

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confused
Read all of thread so you don't come off as illiterate
I understand your trying to justify spending all that cash on your lil Jonnie since you had such a stellar year up on Rt.1, if you read the whole thread you clearly would have seen this was response was to previous post Express dad (But wait E9! The Walpole Express will be there next season too)....Oh the BHL much better.
Try to put your thoughts together into a coherent sentence.