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Re: USHL is the path to the Beanpot: Facts

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How bout you snowflake?

I'll take your response as zero experience, but you feel the need to have an opinion and post ad nauseam about it. Get a job, get a clue, and leave the kiddie board.


I played other more main stream high school and college sports but my son has chosen hockey. He really enjoys it and we have embraced it.

Not too difficult for us to read up, listen, deciminate and form an opinion.

Let me guess; You have a kid who played or plays in the USHL, so now you are an authority.

I bet you never played Slappy!
His kid is 10, more than likely will be among the 85% that don't make Varsity or don't like getting hit, and quit.

If he's in the 15%, he'll realize when his kid is playing U14 and trying to make the jump from kiddie hockey to HS or Prep that he has a lot to learn to get his kid to the next level. Then he'll remember this thread and realize he should have paid closer attention, even if someone did, probably inadvertently, start a thread on the "wrong" board.

And if he had played closer attention he would have seen that some of the posts were by dads with kids that played in the USHL and Hockey East.

My kid is still in HS, but I have the advantage of good relationships with dads whose kids play now or played in the USHL, in Hockey East and even some that are in the NHL, or are headed there, soon. My kid also has worked with three skills guys that have been paid by NHL teams to teach their players. You do pick up a bit of pretty reliable knowledge when you shoot the s#!t with guys like that.


Sure, hes gonna sit back and say "Man, I wish I paid closer attention to that post in 2017. Those guys were right, they knew NHL people, they paid multiple skills guys who knew NHL guys, they even went to an NHL game, Im such as Slappy"
Get over yourselves, you too percentage guy.


You should start a thread or maybe a new category where all you angry youth dads can go to p*ss and moan.

The wheels haven't even falling off yet. Wait until that happens and you will be directing the vitriol towards initials too

Re: USHL is the path to the Beanpot: Facts

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You should start a thread or maybe a new category where all you angry youth dads can go to p*ss and moan.


Wait...this isn't the place for angry youth dads to go to p*ss and moan?

Re: USHL is the path to the Beanpot: Facts

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How bout you snowflake?

I'll take your response as zero experience, but you feel the need to have an opinion and post ad nauseam about it. Get a job, get a clue, and leave the kiddie board.


I played other more main stream high school and college sports but my son has chosen hockey. He really enjoys it and we have embraced it.

Not too difficult for us to read up, listen, deciminate and form an opinion.

Let me guess; You have a kid who played or plays in the USHL, so now you are an authority.

I bet you never played Slappy!
His kid is 10, more than likely will be among the 85% that don't make Varsity or don't like getting hit, and quit.

If he's in the 15%, he'll realize when his kid is playing U14 and trying to make the jump from kiddie hockey to HS or Prep that he has a lot to learn to get his kid to the next level. Then he'll remember this thread and realize he should have paid closer attention, even if someone did, probably inadvertently, start a thread on the "wrong" board.

And if he had played closer attention he would have seen that some of the posts were by dads with kids that played in the USHL and Hockey East.

My kid is still in HS, but I have the advantage of good relationships with dads whose kids play now or played in the USHL, in Hockey East and even some that are in the NHL, or are headed there, soon. My kid also has worked with three skills guys that have been paid by NHL teams to teach their players. You do pick up a bit of pretty reliable knowledge when you shoot the s#!t with guys like that.


All Great Points!! This post was not started by me, I just happened upon it yesterday and saw that it had multiple posts in just a few days. I thought the vast majority of it was great!

Not sure why the other guy is so p***y about it?

You are right about paying attention when your kid is playing youth in anticipation of playing beyond. It has worked out well for my kids and we always tried to get a read on things along the way from the parents of older players. Made plenty of mistakes along the way, but lived to tell the tail.

Best of luck

Re: USHL is the path to the Beanpot: Facts

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Jeff Cox ‏@JeffCoxSports

60 Massachusetts kids on Hockey East rosters this year. 48 played HS or prep. 12 played midgets. Both paths work. It's up to the individual.



I wonder how many if you count all D1 teams and all New England kids. Kinda makes sense that we have a more competitive JR league around here!


No, we don't. My kid played HS and Prep, then decided to leave for USHL, now playing hockey east. Other than a few kids on each USPHL teams, the level of play is poor. There are several kids who played out in USHL who struggled, now there back in USPHL and lighting it up. Facts don't lie. You can put lipstick on a pig, but it's still a pig!


How about JA. Didn't light it up at MC but now top 5 in scoring in the USHL. Some kids just develop later.

Good luck to your kid.

Re: USHL is the path to the Beanpot: Facts

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Jeff Cox ‏@JeffCoxSports

60 Massachusetts kids on Hockey East rosters this year. 48 played HS or prep. 12 played midgets. Both paths work. It's up to the individual.


This is the most misleading post in DBoard history. Cox is a blogger who has a known dislike for anything outside of Mass HS Hockey.

So out of the 60 players from Mass that play in the Hockey East, none of them played junior? None of them played in the USHL? Ohhhh thats right, they played their freshmen/maybe sophomore years out east and then packed up and played in the USHL to better prepare for college hockey. Not too many kids headed from Reading HS to BC these days...

Re: USHL is the path to the Beanpot: Facts

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For everyone watching the Beanpot tonight and next week with their kids, keep these facts in mind:

1) Breakdown of USHL alumni in Top-5 scoring for each team:

BU - 5/5
BC - 4/5
NU - 4/5
Harvard - 4/5

2) 3 of 4 USHL alumni are leading their team in goal

3) Breakdown of USHL alumni on each roster:

NU - 19
BC - 17
Harvard - 16
BU - 15

4) Of the 36 NHL Draft Picks currently on rosters of the 4 Beanpot schools, 27 played in the USHL (75%)


So - while the junior programs in New England will try to brain wash you, keep these facts in mind!



Thanks for stating the obvious. Entire point of the USPHL is to have an alternative to the USHL so local players can stay and play locally instead of heading out west to the USHL. Its stupid that kids in the northeast, where many of the best hockey programs are have to go out west to play juniors.


Two major WRONGs with this. 1) the entire point of the USPHL is for the owners to make money as shown by their price hikes for their lower teams 2) the USPHL will never be an alternative for players to head out west to the USHL; it will forever be a secondary league for players who are not good enough to head out west and make a USHL team!!!



Why can't this change?

Granted the USHL has a huge gate and local fan support. It is highly unlikely that the USPHL will ever have either. Does not mean it cannot be successful and an alternative to Tier 2 or even Tier 1.

I have often heard that today's USPHL's top half are as good as most NAHL teams and that is today ( Not Free). Now with a new league NCDC ( Free), why would that not attract more local players, as well as players from throughout the USA and abroad, that may see this as a better fit.

If this league can support itself without the gate and fan support it may very well supplant the NAHL, BCHL, AJHL, etc and those currently on USHL rosters who are consistently scratched.


Again, kids go to the USHL for the level of play, not the free hockey.


Again, if the local D1 recruits stayed closer and played in the USPHL then the league would have a fantastic level of play. Thats the goal eventually. It will have to be driven by Hockey East coaches who will have to direct the players to stay and play in the USPHL so they can watch their development more closely. The logistics make sense - its just a matter of getting the level of hockey to be comparable to the USHL.

There aren't enough local D1 recruits to make this happen. I know that's a tough reality for the readers of this board, but there aren't.


Not true. If you can pull all D1 recruits from Northeast (New England, NY, NJ, PA, CT,etc) you would have enough players.


But AGAIN, they go to the USHL because it has the best college-bound players in the world all skating in one league. Enough with the what-if's. You psychotic longtime EHF blowhard parents that are now realizing that your 14 year old has no shot in hell of making the USHL, need to stop coming on this thread and trying to rationalize and convince yourself that the eastern league either is or can be as good.

The USHL is the absolute best, there is no comparison and no league comes even close. If you make a team, you go. If you are committed, your coach tells you to go. Why? Because it is basically the same pace as Division 1 hockey, and a year or two out there will allow you to step right in and make an impact at the college level. They play on olympic ice surfaces. It's not ten 20 year-olds jammed on two inches of ice at the new second rink at Merrimack College where you can't take two strides with the puck.

I get that some people are insecure, but the rationalizations you're making are pathetic. It would be like saying, "Well yeah America has the best army right now, but if all of the soldiers that are from East of the Mississippi moved to Canada, then their army would be just as good." Not gonna happen. End of story.


You are missing the point - the point is of course kids have to go to the USHL - THERE IS NO OTHER OPTION at this point. The USPHL is hoping to create another option. If Hockey East coaches recruits to play in the USPHL they will. Fact.


There are many other options. In fact maybe too many. A few outside of USHL are viable. Also, Hockey East is king for sure, but how about the other division 1 leagues that are very competitive. ECAC is a notch below top to bottom, but pretty good! Atlantic , not so much but still is Div 1. Their recruits have to play somewhere too

Re: USHL is the path to the Beanpot: Facts

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For everyone watching the Beanpot tonight and next week with their kids, keep these facts in mind:

1) Breakdown of USHL alumni in Top-5 scoring for each team:

BU - 5/5
BC - 4/5
NU - 4/5
Harvard - 4/5

2) 3 of 4 USHL alumni are leading their team in goal

3) Breakdown of USHL alumni on each roster:

NU - 19
BC - 17
Harvard - 16
BU - 15

4) Of the 36 NHL Draft Picks currently on rosters of the 4 Beanpot schools, 27 played in the USHL (75%)


So - while the junior programs in New England will try to brain wash you, keep these facts in mind!



Thanks for stating the obvious. Entire point of the USPHL is to have an alternative to the USHL so local players can stay and play locally instead of heading out west to the USHL. Its stupid that kids in the northeast, where many of the best hockey programs are have to go out west to play juniors.


Two major WRONGs with this. 1) the entire point of the USPHL is for the owners to make money as shown by their price hikes for their lower teams 2) the USPHL will never be an alternative for players to head out west to the USHL; it will forever be a secondary league for players who are not good enough to head out west and make a USHL team!!!



Why can't this change?

Granted the USHL has a huge gate and local fan support. It is highly unlikely that the USPHL will ever have either. Does not mean it cannot be successful and an alternative to Tier 2 or even Tier 1.

I have often heard that today's USPHL's top half are as good as most NAHL teams and that is today ( Not Free). Now with a new league NCDC ( Free), why would that not attract more local players, as well as players from throughout the USA and abroad, that may see this as a better fit.

If this league can support itself without the gate and fan support it may very well supplant the NAHL, BCHL, AJHL, etc and those currently on USHL rosters who are consistently scratched.


Again, kids go to the USHL for the level of play, not the free hockey.


Again, if the local D1 recruits stayed closer and played in the USPHL then the league would have a fantastic level of play. Thats the goal eventually. It will have to be driven by Hockey East coaches who will have to direct the players to stay and play in the USPHL so they can watch their development more closely. The logistics make sense - its just a matter of getting the level of hockey to be comparable to the USHL.

There aren't enough local D1 recruits to make this happen. I know that's a tough reality for the readers of this board, but there aren't.


Not true. If you can pull all D1 recruits from Northeast (New England, NY, NJ, PA, CT,etc) you would have enough players.


But AGAIN, they go to the USHL because it has the best college-bound players in the world all skating in one league. Enough with the what-if's. You psychotic longtime EHF blowhard parents that are now realizing that your 14 year old has no shot in hell of making the USHL, need to stop coming on this thread and trying to rationalize and convince yourself that the eastern league either is or can be as good.

The USHL is the absolute best, there is no comparison and no league comes even close. If you make a team, you go. If you are committed, your coach tells you to go. Why? Because it is basically the same pace as Division 1 hockey, and a year or two out there will allow you to step right in and make an impact at the college level. They play on olympic ice surfaces. It's not ten 20 year-olds jammed on two inches of ice at the new second rink at Merrimack College where you can't take two strides with the puck.

I get that some people are insecure, but the rationalizations you're making are pathetic. It would be like saying, "Well yeah America has the best army right now, but if all of the soldiers that are from East of the Mississippi moved to Canada, then their army would be just as good." Not gonna happen. End of story.


Dude! Why so Angry! Jeez!

Either your kid didn't make it or he did make it and he is so special, that certainly nobody else is worthy.

USHL is the best for sure and will probably be that way for a long time, maybe forever. To say that this new league may gain some footing and become a better alternative than the other Tier 2 & 3 leagues seems reasonable to me. Why wouldn't kids from the northeast or anywhere for that matter want to come play hockey in the backyard of 75% of the better ( hockey and academics) Division 1 and 3 teams in the country. If Sven from Sweden has a choice between playing in the Boston area or nowhere Texas ( NAHL) and the hockey is comparable, why wouldn't he? If Tommy from California gets cut from the USHL team and looking at NESCAC schools maybe this league makes perfect sense. Play a game on Saturday and tour Trinity, Wesleyan after the game and catch their game. Maybe the league really takes off and next thing you know they are comparable.

I don't get you people!! So Black and White. So petulant!