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Re: 05 06 wizards

agreed- but all prep rosters are made up of kids that play select hockey

Re: 05 06 wizards

Correct - but not all select teams are equally represented. For a newer boys program wiz have done pretty well by their players. I suppose there are many ways to judge programs, wins, quality of skills, full ice practices, fancy uniforms, exotic tournaments. I choose to judge by how well they prepare kids for the next level of play.

Re: 05 06 wizards

yes- well said

Re: 05 06 wizards

With all of this said (And I agree with a lot of the points on this thread). ECW should not be playing in E9. If their mission is skills and more skills (which is not even truly the case when you run 1 skills a week that's sparsely attended) then they should drop to BHL and allow clubs (who are truly trying to compete with the best skaters possible at a respective birth year) to play vs other 'top' competition. As for the coaching changes they'll only lose ahandful of kids. It's too late in the game to find landing spots at other clubs which for the most part are 90% set by now. The question therefore becomes: Do they lose their top kids? Or Role players?

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
With all of this said (And I agree with a lot of the points on this thread). ECW should not be playing in E9. If their mission is skills and more skills (which is not even truly the case when you run 1 skills a week that's sparsely attended) then they should drop to BHL and allow clubs (who are truly trying to compete with the best skaters possible at a respective birth year) to play vs other 'top' competition. As for the coaching changes they'll only lose ahandful of kids. It's too late in the game to find landing spots at other clubs which for the most part are 90% set by now. The question therefore becomes: Do they lose their top kids? Or Role players?


This is why E9 is a joke. Auto bid E9 placements are a joke.

Re: 05 06 wizards

EHF has auto-bids too. Top Gun, Falcons,Breakers, etc.
Difference is that Fusco could care less about having a top boys team. He looks at a top team as high maitenance, therefore, he'd prefer to have a mid-to low ranked team in which parents keep their mouth shut because they are just happy to say their kids play Elite hockey. Wizards boys are a joke.

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
EHF has auto-bids too. Top Gun, Falcons,Breakers, etc.
Difference is that Fusco could care less about having a top boys team. He looks at a top team as high maitenance, therefore, he'd prefer to have a mid-to low ranked team in which parents keep their mouth shut because they are just happy to say their kids play Elite hockey. Wizards boys are a joke.


Sorry your kid got cut

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
EHF has auto-bids too. Top Gun, Falcons,Breakers, etc.
Difference is that Fusco could care less about having a top boys team. He looks at a top team as high maitenance, therefore, he'd prefer to have a mid-to low ranked team in which parents keep their mouth shut because they are just happy to say their kids play Elite hockey. Wizards boys are a joke.

The EHF doesn't have auto bids. They have an elite division. You can't play into elite and the elite teams don't have the option of saying they want to play tier 1. There are always strong teams at the top and bottom teams as well. Thank should encourage development. The Tier 1 has black and white divisions that are played out in parity and orgs don't have auto bids there either. And there are stronger and weaker teams in those divisions as well. You should worry more about your kids development. And if you think your kids team is getting shafted because they are so good but not facing good teams, then sign up for the more competitive tournaments.

Re: 05 06 wizards

Strong teams at the top and bottom of the EHF elite? At any age group there are only 4-6 top teams in New England half in the E9 half in the EHF. The mid to bottom of both leagues is weak, there just aren't enough top players to spread across all the elite teams in both leagues.

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
Strong teams at the top and bottom of the EHF elite? At any age group there are only 4-6 top teams in New England half in the E9 half in the EHF. The mid to bottom of both leagues is weak, there just aren't enough top players to spread across all the elite teams in both leagues.

Correct! So why do so many have this fascination/quest to be on a "winning" team. It means nothing if your kid is not developing the way he should and that doesn't always equate to a winning team. I could coach a team and keep the top players on the ice the whole time. Does that develop the other problems. Be more concerned about what goes on during practices

Re: 05 06 wizards

You want to know what's concerning? When one of the bottom kids who has been (allegedly) told he will not be brought back next year, has a dad who (allegedly) back doors his way to ownership and gets himself named 17-18 coach. All in an effort to keep his kid on the E9 roster. You what else is concerning? When 06 parents outside of the organization know that new dad coach is going to replace current coach before current 06 ECW families were informed. You know what's also concerning? Informing parents of the changes so late in the game that most are are left with no other option to go back to said team or back down to town.

Re: 05 06 wizards

You know what's the most concerning?? That you care so much about 9/10 yo hockey!

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
You want to know what's concerning? When one of the bottom kids who has been (allegedly) told he will not be brought back next year, has a dad who (allegedly) back doors his way to ownership and gets himself named 17-18 coach. All in an effort to keep his kid on the E9 roster. You what else is concerning? When 06 parents outside of the organization know that new dad coach is going to replace current coach before current 06 ECW families were informed. You know what's also concerning? Informing parents of the changes so late in the game that most are are left with no other option to go back to said team or back down to town.

Plenty of time to find another spot. Stop. Unless your kid isn't good.

Re: 05 06 wizards

ECW 06 situation does not look good.

5 of their top 7 players are gone.

But on a good note, the bottom of the roster now has a proverbial new lease on life.

Re: 05 06 wizards

Wiz 06 tryout didn't look good. Originally had 2 sheets- they cut it to one as only 35 skaters registered for both teams.
The good news is that nobody will get cut!!

Re: 05 06 wizards

Weak team that just got exponentially weaker. Same at Rangers. I hope both teams do the right thing and play in the BHL. Not fair to those kids to get killed all season.

Re: 05 06 wizards

Ralph E Boy
Wiz 06 tryout didn't look good. Originally had 2 sheets- they cut it to one as only 35 skaters registered for both teams.
The good news is that nobody will get cut!!


Most of the 06s are going back to town. Several had shadow tryouts at other teams but were not offered spots.

Re: 05 06 wizards

06s that left went to:
2 EHF Elite
1 EHF T1
1 other E9
1 Town PeeWeeA

06 Wiz still have 3 solid players remaining (2F and 1D). And if the Rangers goalie shows up that makes 4 solid players. The other high level contributors have to be found through tryouts, so hearing that there were only 35 total kids at tryout is not a good omen.

Re: 05 06 wizards

2 06 Wiz kids were actually picked for an 06 Fed Elite team? Cherry picking players off the worst team in E9. Oh my, the Fed is lowering it's standards.

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
06s that left went to:
2 EHF Elite
1 EHF T1
1 other E9
1 Town PeeWeeA

06 Wiz still have 3 solid players remaining (2F and 1D). And if the Rangers goalie shows up that makes 4 solid players. The other high level contributors have to be found through tryouts, so hearing that there were only 35 total kids at tryout is not a good omen.


Comical, they are all going to town, 1 E9.

Re: 05 06 wizards

you sure?

Re: 05 06 wizards

anon
you sure?


Yep. One almost made TG but they ended up taking a kid from Rangers. Your not considering alternate a full position are you? Lol

Re: 05 06 wizards

sounds like you are on top of it

Re: 05 06 wizards

anon
sounds like you are on top of it


You sure?

Re: 05 06 wizards

Wizards kids are soft. Watch a game on live barn for petes sake!

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
anon
you sure?


Yep. One almost made TG but they ended up taking a kid from Rangers. Your not considering alternate a full position are you? Lol


Wrong. 2 made top gun Elite, 1 made Islanders T1. Facts.

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
Anon
06s that left went to:
2 EHF Elite
1 EHF T1
1 other E9
1 Town PeeWeeA

06 Wiz still have 3 solid players remaining (2F and 1D). And if the Rangers goalie shows up that makes 4 solid players. The other high level contributors have to be found through tryouts, so hearing that there were only 35 total kids at tryout is not a good omen.


Comical, they are all going to town, 1 E9.


What's comical is that you have absolutely NO IDEA what you are talking about. All going to town.... psssh. OR.....You must be the "new coach" or an ECW administrator trying to fool new incoming families into thinking the players that left weren't any good. Bush league, pal.

Re: 05 06 wizards

Good to see the 05 wiz win a championship yesterday 🏆

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
Good to see the 05 wiz win a championship yesterday 🏆


Said the Rangers dads

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
Anon
With all of this said (And I agree with a lot of the points on this thread). ECW should not be playing in E9. If their mission is skills and more skills (which is not even truly the case when you run 1 skills a week that's sparsely attended) then they should drop to BHL and allow clubs (who are truly trying to compete with the best skaters possible at a respective birth year) to play vs other 'top' competition. As for the coaching changes they'll only lose ahandful of kids. It's too late in the game to find landing spots at other clubs which for the most part are 90% set by now. The question therefore becomes: Do they lose their top kids? Or Role players?


This is why E9 is a joke. Auto bid E9 placements are a joke.
I agree some teams (especially the auto-bids) are a joke. But the top teams are no joke. But the other model (EHF) having no bids...the bottom teams also seem to suck (and usually from the same programs over the different birth years). So, how would you fix this?

Re: 05 06 wizards

So you base the quality of a team on wins and you believe that the quality of an entire organization rests on the win /loss record of two teams. Please find another organization E9 or EHF where all their teams are top 3 in league. Sorry you have an axe to grind with the wiz.

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
With all of this said (And I agree with a lot of the points on this thread). ECW should not be playing in E9. If their mission is skills and more skills (which is not even truly the case when you run 1 skills a week that's sparsely attended) then they should drop to BHL and allow clubs (who are truly trying to compete with the best skaters possible at a respective birth year) to play vs other 'top' competition. As for the coaching changes they'll only lose ahandful of kids. It's too late in the game to find landing spots at other clubs which for the most part are 90% set by now. The question therefore becomes: Do they lose their top kids? Or Role players?

If a hockey program is not focused on developing skills, then what should it be focused on? Winning? Is that what you look for in a program for your son? Seems to me that we should be looking for teams that are committed to making our sons into better hockey players, not compiling or recruiting the best skaters around to win that coveted E9 championship trophy.

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
When will you understand that the Wizards could care about boys hockey! It's all about the girls program.
Go to the Patriots down the street. Worse rink, better program.

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
Heard today they are firing all 05 and 06 coaches Elite and Select.
My kid plays against their 06 elite team. I have no idea if it is the same group of kids or if they cut and replace kids but that team has actually gotten a lot better over the last couple of years. I know their record doesn't really make a great case but they used to be a guaranteed blowout and now they play every game relatively tight. If they did that with the same group of kids then it seems like the 06 coaches have actually done a pretty good job - if it's a whole new batch of kids then maybe not so much...

Re: 05 06 wizards

06 turnes over about 3 or 4 kids - which is typical- the 05 team was a little different as the coach left and took a bunch of players with him- so their turnover was higher last year.

Re: 05 06 wizards

anon
Anon
Heard today they are firing all 05 and 06 coaches Elite and Select.
My kid plays against their 06 elite team. I have no idea if it is the same group of kids or if they cut and replace kids but that team has actually gotten a lot better over the last couple of years. I know their record doesn't really make a great case but they used to be a guaranteed blowout and now they play every game relatively tight. If they did that with the same group of kids then it seems like the 06 coaches have actually done a pretty good job - if it's a whole new batch of kids then maybe not so much...


From what I can gather (my kid having played them 2 straight years now) 06 team elite turned over half the roster. They were an easy W last season but this year's version is a competitive group. They'll give you a good game but they lack depth. They're about 8 kids deep, after that its a big drop off.

Re: 05 06 wizards

Anon
Heard today they are firing all 05 and 06 coaches Elite and Select.
buddy u are clueless