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Is the EMHL going away?
talent in white div was =to town aa hockey .what will silver be =to town a what a joke EHF biggest money grab in hockey
It's not a money grab it's about parity. There's a ton more kids now playing, more rinks being built(2 new at NESC, 2 new in Worcester, 2 new in Canton, 2 new in Attleboro etc...)
Let's face it, EHF black is essentially just teams without Elite teams(Manchester Flames, Westborough Stars, CT Rangers, Vipers, Shamrocks) and teams that didn't belong at the bottom(Kings Jr Friars River Hawks) but had too much pride to drop down to White where they belonged. For example, In 06 MMFlames went from a top team in Black to a bottom team year over year simply with a goalie issue- they're EHF black talented but they had 4 wins!? They probably should go to White unless they fix that. Nobody should be 26-4 or 4-26 every year.
With 2 new teams coming in(Cyclones and Monarchs) it makes sense to make three divisions of 7. River Hawks dissolve into Islanders and Top Gun.
EHF Black is basically going to be teams with 4-5 Elite kids and the rest are AAA but would get smoked at the Elite level(hello CT Rangers)
EHF White is now going to be for complete AAA teams with no real flaws or for orgs with Elite AND multiple Tier 1 teams per org like Caps/Woonsocket and Jr Terriers)
EHF Silver will be for incomplete AAA teams that have some kind of hole- they don't have the goalie or they don't have enough kids to really make a team( teams like the Bandits because their kids are in juvenile detention facilities temporarily or otherwise suspended) or EMHL teams who have been sandbagging(EMHL MMFlames because of org politics).
They say there's no impact for Elite but it won't be long before Elite does this as well like E9. EHF Elite should have a play in process too.
None of the black, white or silver are real AAA , tier 1 or elite as classified by USA. They are tier 2 same as town and the sooner you fave that the better. If parents are really looking for parity they should go back to valley.
That's only for Pee Wee and above where Tier 1 is only Elite. For Mites and Squirts AAA is classified as Tier 1 as well.
True, but on a whole they can compete against good national and international competition. Not they case with the tier 1, black, silver, orange teams.
Parity in April is terrible. Just do it in September. Time for kids to move on to spring sports.
Whatever makes you feel good about yourself buddy.
You clearly don't get it, so the Teir 1 with the colored designations is perfect for someone like yourself.
It doesn't matter what its called, all you know is that your kid plays in the EHF Tier 1 which is almost EHF elite right ?
And you will care once they reach high school when you are asking why is that kid who played Town is whole life better than my kid who played Tier 1 EHF is youth career.
It is a false title, that is made up for the parents. I personally donat care what they call anything below elite, or the top team, but this will get very embarrassing for you once you step outside that little bubble you live in.
And why do people keep posting on here that high school coaches do not care were your kid played his youth hockey, as they will have junior fill out a questionnaire at the start of tryouts and season and they will ask where they played.
That will be the first thing they take into consideration as how that year will go and who has potential and who will play on what lines, trust me.
Sorry your kid could not not make ANY team in the EHF. Enjoy Saugus Town A hockey..
Explain this to me then: The Breakers were Tier 1 White last season and won the the division in 2015/16. This year they finished 1st overall in T1 Black and made it to the Final losing by 1 goal. I think EHF Black is excellent hockey and some of the higher teams in White (maybe top 3, more than likely top 2) can play at a high level. (Black) However, if you look at this year's White bracket the top 2-3 would have finished in the Black at the bottom 4-5 slots. Unless of course you find the Black to be town hockey as well...
I agree with everything you said.
The explanation is simple, the parity process is flawed and despite having a great regular season two years ago the Breakers got put in the white division for last year before moving up to the black division this year. Teams can and do vary from year to year, but regular season performance should count for a lot more than it does. I mean seriously, in the 06 division does anyone think the CT Rangers, Manchester Flames, and North Shore Shamrocks should have to play into the Black division? Does anyone really think any of these Tier 1 white would compete with these black division playoff qualifiers? With the new alignment, hopefully the division stays large (13 teams this year). It was nice having to only play each team three times in the regular season rather than five or six.
EMHL stays but is splitting to two divisions as well- Gold and Red. This is just good for parity. Flames and Vipers EMHL don't belong there- those are AAA teams not AA(which is what EMHL is). With Vipers moving out to PHL and Tier 1 adding silver it gives the EMHL teams a path.
Automatic bids for 1st and 2nd place finishers is well-justified and a nice, across the board, well-deserved reward by the EHF. Blowup scenarios are a real stretch and if they happen, so be it.
Agreed what a joke. EHF should do super bowl ads that's how good in marketing they are fooling gullible parents that tier1 silver is an accomplishment. 6 or a half dozen. Silver or EMHL? Same league group of cuts. Sorry your kids got cut by the white team I mean black team that's how much they stink. Keep writing those checks!
Oh god, Now the argument is going to be "you have to play in the EHF Silver" if you want to play competitive town hockey".
Club hockey in this area becomes a bigger and bigger joke every year !
So this makes playing in parity a requirement unless you want to get stuck in the silver, correct? Even if you know you belong in the white division. Just another money grab and a way to fill ice time.
How long before the green, purple and Red divisions, total joke.
Following suit. mpdhl to nephl. emhl to t1 silver. So many Teams changing names. Now leagues. Typical hockey bs for the almighty $$$&.
E9 looks like a great option now. FED is dying! Bahahaha!
What happens to the NE Jr Falcons who are now considered the Islanders? Can only 1 team play in the Black division?
My understanding is any original EHF team (that has an elite program) can only have 1 team in each bracket. One in Black, 1 in White. Not sure what the Islanders will do because it looks like they are fielding about 4 teams in each bracket..
The new set up is a joke. Let's call it what it is, a money grab. As a whole with all the new teams popping up, the product on the ice is getting watered down. Elite division and a Tier 1 division. AAA and I have a kid starting out that is playing at that level, should not be in the ehf. A developmental league, that quite frankly you would hope would be more affordable, and you try and keep these kids in house and develop them. Craziness, I guess all the talk about all the leagues coming together to from one league might not be garbage talk.
EHF will allow 2- T1 teams from the same program to play in the same T1 color division. Parity is the most important component. They will not allow a strong (2nd) T1 team from one organization to pound on white and/or silver tier teams. That defeats the purpose of parity. They rather both T1 teams make the same division (black for example instead of making one leave black for white or silver)
It seems to be pretty clear on the FED website. Two teams from the same organization can't be in the same division. I don't agree with it but this is what it says:
No more than two (2) teams per organization will be allowed within the three Tier I groups (organizations cannot have two teams in the same group).
• The three Tier I groups will consist of like teams determined by two (2) parity tournaments.
• In the Black Division, first and second place finishers in the 2016-2017 regular season, as well as the playoff champion, are not required to participate in the Parity Tournament and will be guaranteed a spot in that group.
• All second teams for an organization must compete in the second Parity Tournament if they want to compete for a spot in the White Division.
two teams from the same org cannot be in the same division. one team in the black and one team in the white or any combination of. black/white or black/silver, or white/silver
So let me ask you this.... Tier 1 Black team plays in black parity tourney and doesn't get in, they are automatically in white. Tier 1 White teams plays in white parity and makes it in... so the white gets bumped to silver ?
This is going to be a sh*t show ! So a decent Tier 1 white team (that is a relative term I know) will end up playing against silver teams, which is going to be the equivalent of below town hockey.
If parity is the ultimate goal then there will in fact be multiple teams from one program in the same division.
Hopefully there are so many teams the divisions are still large. 06 Black was 13 teams and that was perfect, playing each team just three times. It gets boring playing the same teams over and over, especially when you add in playoffs against the same teams. Even the teams that ended up with weak records hung in there most games.
Looks like a lot of Tier 1 Black chest pounding parents are going to be butt-hurt when little Johnny's playing in the white this year. Sorry your team got cut!