If they are then shamrocks should be in as that gives them three wins...and it was a 4 to 3 game...so those illegal three players don't show breakers lose
If that is true those teams should be disqualified and whoever they played should get the wins. Never happen as two of those teams are founding members....personally saw the advantage bag going in the locker room...
I am not saying anyone cheated or did not, but since tryouts were 2-3 weeks ago, a lot of players still have their bags, gloves, helmets from their previous club. Haven't had fittings etc...for new club gear. Just because the bag or the helmet is not the same does not automatically mean someone is cheating.
If that is true those teams should be disqualified and whoever they played should get the wins. Never happen as two of those teams are founding members....personally saw the advantage bag going in the locker room...
I am not saying anyone cheated or did not, but since tryouts were 2-3 weeks ago, a lot of players still have their bags, gloves, helmets from their previous club. Haven't had fittings etc...for new club gear. Just because the bag or the helmet is not the same does not automatically mean someone is cheating.
you make too much sense...dont bring that to the Dboard...
This parity is an unmitigated disaster for the EHF. The timing doesn't allow enough time for teams to outfit their players with gear, and suspicion of foul play (real or perceived) casts a shadow over what could be a fun event. The BHL is gaining ground by doing nothing.
Yep....only saving grace is if they do the right thing
just curious coach, whats the right thing? It would be a major snowball effect, can not have 3 teams forfeit all 4 games without making the entire age group redo parity.
Not a coach and not involved my team in black...the right thing is if a team is caught cheating the rule is a forfeit,,,thems the rules....if u can't do the time dont do the crime
Hey idiot, did you ever think that maybe Eagles didnt have same # of players each day because of 1. Baseball 2. Lacrosse 3. Illness. Coach is carrying more players next season. Get your facts straight before you come whining on the dboard. Clearly, you were on one of teams Eagles beat this weekend. EHF already checked this out and the roster and players all legit. Move on!
On website,
Breakers forfeit all 4 games, Shamrocks in, instead of Breakers
so they get the bulldogs and the bandits and a forfeit and their in the black division before the Friars?
What's the difference? Friars only won 1 game, surely we can't count TG as a legit win they are town hockey B-level.
Friars had a joke of a pool and couldn't get the job done case closed.
Caps had a much more difficult road and didn't get the job done either case closed part 2.
Sad thing is that the Caps cheated as well and could not get the job done!!!How about those Saints players...Caps?
You're an idiot. Not one Saints kid played in parity. The 04 Saints are terrible and only won games because they had the best kids from Warwick. Caps team is all Warwick and SWS kids. This team will do very well in White, which is the same as Town A. They rolled the dice and lost.
On website,
Breakers forfeit all 4 games, Shamrocks in, instead of Breakers
so they get the bulldogs and the bandits and a forfeit and their in the black division before the Friars?
What's the difference? Friars only won 1 game, surely we can't count TG as a legit win they are town hockey B-level.
Friars had a joke of a pool and couldn't get the job done case closed.
Caps had a much more difficult road and didn't get the job done either case closed part 2.
Sad thing is that the Caps cheated as well and could not get the job done!!!How about those Saints players...Caps?
You're an idiot. Not one Saints kid played in parity. The 04 Saints are terrible and only won games because they had the best kids from Warwick. Caps team is all Warwick and SWS kids. This team will do very well in White, which is the same as Town A. They rolled the dice and lost.
White is far ahead of town A.... So the 04 team destroyed SNEHC this past season with a GD of 170 and won league final 11-1..
And now they don't qualify for Black, so which is it Tier 1 teams are very good or SNEHC is the worst league on the planet?
On website,
Breakers forfeit all 4 games, Shamrocks in, instead of Breakers
so they get the bulldogs and the bandits and a forfeit and their in the black division before the Friars?
What's the difference? Friars only won 1 game, surely we can't count TG as a legit win they are town hockey B-level.
Friars had a joke of a pool and couldn't get the job done case closed.
Caps had a much more difficult road and didn't get the job done either case closed part 2.
Sad thing is that the Caps cheated as well and could not get the job done!!!How about those Saints players...Caps?
You're an idiot. Not one Saints kid played in parity. The 04 Saints are terrible and only won games because they had the best kids from Warwick. Caps team is all Warwick and SWS kids. This team will do very well in White, which is the same as Town A. They rolled the dice and lost.
From what I saw of the 20 teams at Black Parity, only Top Gun would be a poor SNEHC team. The majority of SNEHC was barely equivalent to "A"(town) level hockey, and even the teams that did not qualify for Black would have their way with 3/4 of that league. So the person blindly saying White is the equivalent of Town "A" is way off of reality. Do you really think SRI,Wave2, Vineyard, Crusaders, ect are in the same realm as Friars, Islanders, Breakers, Cyclones, MMF ect? Come on now.
On website,
Breakers forfeit all 4 games, Shamrocks in, instead of Breakers
so they get the bulldogs and the bandits and a forfeit and their in the black division before the Friars?
What's the difference? Friars only won 1 game, surely we can't count TG as a legit win they are town hockey B-level.
Friars had a joke of a pool and couldn't get the job done case closed.
Caps had a much more difficult road and didn't get the job done either case closed part 2.
Sad thing is that the Caps cheated as well and could not get the job done!!!How about those Saints players...Caps?
You're an idiot. Not one Saints kid played in parity. The 04 Saints are terrible and only won games because they had the best kids from Warwick. Caps team is all Warwick and SWS kids. This team will do very well in White, which is the same as Town A. They rolled the dice and lost.
From what I saw of the 20 teams at Black Parity, only Top Gun would be a poor SNEHC team. The majority of SNEHC was barely equivalent to "A"(town) level hockey, and even the teams that did not qualify for Black would have their way with 3/4 of that league. So the person blindly saying White is the equivalent of Town "A" is way off of reality. Do you really think SRI,Wave2, Vineyard, Crusaders, ect are in the same realm as Friars, Islanders, Breakers, Cyclones, MMF ect? Come on now.
All leagues at all levels have top and bottom teams. SSC top A teams and Valley would do quite well in White. Your probably one of the parents who was talking about how your Caps team could win at the Elite level. Now reality slapped you and you will try to justify that White is so much better then Town A. Same parents were bashing White a week before saying it'd be a waste. Now White is apparently awesome. You over estimated the teams level which is fine, but don't preach the White is better then A. Your a 3rd level team man. You have 300 kids playing at a higher level then your White superstar. Your just paying more $ for fancy warm up suits and bags. Good luck in your next parity. Remember there's always Silver!
On website,
Breakers forfeit all 4 games, Shamrocks in, instead of Breakers
so they get the bulldogs and the bandits and a forfeit and their in the black division before the Friars?
What's the difference? Friars only won 1 game, surely we can't count TG as a legit win they are town hockey B-level.
Friars had a joke of a pool and couldn't get the job done case closed.
Caps had a much more difficult road and didn't get the job done either case closed part 2.
Sad thing is that the Caps cheated as well and could not get the job done!!!How about those Saints players...Caps?
You're an idiot. Not one Saints kid played in parity. The 04 Saints are terrible and only won games because they had the best kids from Warwick. Caps team is all Warwick and SWS kids. This team will do very well in White, which is the same as Town A. They rolled the dice and lost.
From what I saw of the 20 teams at Black Parity, only Top Gun would be a poor SNEHC team. The majority of SNEHC was barely equivalent to "A"(town) level hockey, and even the teams that did not qualify for Black would have their way with 3/4 of that league. So the person blindly saying White is the equivalent of Town "A" is way off of reality. Do you really think SRI,Wave2, Vineyard, Crusaders, ect are in the same realm as Friars, Islanders, Breakers, Cyclones, MMF ect? Come on now.
All leagues at all levels have top and bottom teams. SSC top A teams and Valley would do quite well in White. Your probably one of the parents who was talking about how your Caps team could win at the Elite level. Now reality slapped you and you will try to justify that White is so much better then Town A. Same parents were bashing White a week before saying it'd be a waste. Now White is apparently awesome. You over estimated the teams level which is fine, but don't preach the White is better then A. Your a 3rd level team man. You have 300 kids playing at a higher level then your White superstar. Your just paying more $ for fancy warm up suits and bags. Good luck in your next parity. Remember there's always Silver!
I hope all you black parity dad's take a minute to remember and honor Jackie Robinson today. Wait Black Parity has nothing to do with advancing the wonderful cause of civil rights?? You mean it's just a bunch of moron dad's in suburban Boston who can't come to grips that their kids can't play hockey very well? oh sorry carry on please
EHF Elite doesn't have parity because the kids are the best at their age group. The rest of you are just color coordinating for sloppy seconds. Give it a rest and go back to Town A.
the black division was a bunch of cheats. there are 3 teams from one bracket in the black and all 3 teams suck. add the north shore shamrocks and half the black div sucks. EHF screwed this up big time. and my kid is on onew of the teams that went 4-0. it should be re-done. what a joke.
the black division was a bunch of cheats. there are 3 teams from one bracket in the black and all 3 teams suck. add the north shore shamrocks and half the black div sucks. EHF screwed this up big time. and my kid is on onew of the teams that went 4-0. it should be re-done. what a joke.
Agree with this. This looks AWFUL for the EHF. What basically happened is the integrity of 3 divisions has just been ruined. The Breakers and CT Rangers are now going into SILVER which, let's face it, they will utterly destroy that Division. The 2 teams that should be in SILVER will be in WHITE and most likely be out of place. The 2-3 teams that benefited from the cheaters will also be bottom of the barrel in BLACK. Shamrocks beat an EMHL team (Bulldogs) the Bandits were 14-19 in WHITE, and the other Win was a Forfeit. The Friars beat TOP GUN, and tied the TBIRDS who had 10 goals for and 7 of the 10 against TOP GUN. Something needs to be done, when you are affecting 3 Divisions.
the black division was a bunch of cheats. there are 3 teams from one bracket in the black and all 3 teams suck. add the north shore shamrocks and half the black div sucks. EHF screwed this up big time. and my kid is on onew of the teams that went 4-0. it should be re-done. what a joke.
Agree with this. This looks AWFUL for the EHF. What basically happened is the integrity of 3 divisions has just been ruined. The Breakers and CT Rangers are now going into SILVER which, let's face it, they will utterly destroy that Division. The 2 teams that should be in SILVER will be in WHITE and most likely be out of place. The 2-3 teams that benefited from the cheaters will also be bottom of the barrel in BLACK. Shamrocks beat an EMHL team (Bulldogs) the Bandits were 14-19 in WHITE, and the other Win was a Forfeit. The Friars beat TOP GUN, and tied the TBIRDS who had 10 goals for and 7 of the 10 against TOP GUN. Something needs to be done, when you are affecting 3 Divisions.
Am I missing something? Here are the teams in Black, including the CT Rangers. I thought the Breakers were the only team caught cheating?
2017-18 (2004) Black Division
1 Northstars Hockey Club
2 South Shore Kings
3 Woonsocket Northstars
4 Minuteman Flames
5 Greater Boston Vipers
6 Islanders Hockey Club
7 CT Rangers
8 Northshore Shamrocks
9 Boston jr Eagles
10 New Hampshire Jr. Monarchs
Or did they finally catch up with the CT Rangers and forfeited their games too?
the black division was a bunch of cheats. there are 3 teams from one bracket in the black and all 3 teams suck. add the north shore shamrocks and half the black div sucks. EHF screwed this up big time. and my kid is on onew of the teams that went 4-0. it should be re-done. what a joke.
Agree with this. This looks AWFUL for the EHF. What basically happened is the integrity of 3 divisions has just been ruined. The Breakers and CT Rangers are now going into SILVER which, let's face it, they will utterly destroy that Division. The 2 teams that should be in SILVER will be in WHITE and most likely be out of place. The 2-3 teams that benefited from the cheaters will also be bottom of the barrel in BLACK. Shamrocks beat an EMHL team (Bulldogs) the Bandits were 14-19 in WHITE, and the other Win was a Forfeit. The Friars beat TOP GUN, and tied the TBIRDS who had 10 goals for and 7 of the 10 against TOP GUN. Something needs to be done, when you are affecting 3 Divisions.
Am I missing something? Here are the teams in Black, including the CT Rangers. I thought the Breakers were the only team caught cheating?
2017-18 (2004) Black Division
1 Northstars Hockey Club
2 South Shore Kings
3 Woonsocket Northstars
4 Minuteman Flames
5 Greater Boston Vipers
6 Islanders Hockey Club
7 CT Rangers
8 Northshore Shamrocks
9 Boston jr Eagles
10 New Hampshire Jr. Monarchs
Or did they finally catch up with the CT Rangers and forfeited their games too?
Yes. The weakest division by far in parity now has 3 teams in black. Friars replace CT Rangers...
the black division was a bunch of cheats. there are 3 teams from one bracket in the black and all 3 teams suck. add the north shore shamrocks and half the black div sucks. EHF screwed this up big time. and my kid is on onew of the teams that went 4-0. it should be re-done. what a joke.
Black division is softer than it's been in a while. Really embarrassing for the EHF. There are at least 3 or 4 teams that were in tougher parity groupings that are in the white that would have done much better than those 3 teams that got in.
This EHF Parity is soooooo much better then the E9. I am excited to listen to you dumb people toil over spring parity and how bad it is going to screw up your summer and 8 months of hockey to follow.
On website,
Breakers forfeit all 4 games, Shamrocks in, instead of Breakers
so they get the bulldogs and the bandits and a forfeit and their in the black division before the Friars?
What's the difference? Friars only won 1 game, surely we can't count TG as a legit win they are town hockey B-level.
Friars had a joke of a pool and couldn't get the job done case closed.
Caps had a much more difficult road and didn't get the job done either case closed part 2.
Sad thing is that the Caps cheated as well and could not get the job done!!!How about those Saints players...Caps?
You're an idiot. Not one Saints kid played in parity. The 04 Saints are terrible and only won games because they had the best kids from Warwick. Caps team is all Warwick and SWS kids. This team will do very well in White, which is the same as Town A. They rolled the dice and lost.
From what I saw of the 20 teams at Black Parity, only Top Gun would be a poor SNEHC team. The majority of SNEHC was barely equivalent to "A"(town) level hockey, and even the teams that did not qualify for Black would have their way with 3/4 of that league. So the person blindly saying White is the equivalent of Town "A" is way off of reality. Do you really think SRI,Wave2, Vineyard, Crusaders, ect are in the same realm as Friars, Islanders, Breakers, Cyclones, MMF ect? Come on now.
All leagues at all levels have top and bottom teams. SSC top A teams and Valley would do quite well in White. Your probably one of the parents who was talking about how your Caps team could win at the Elite level. Now reality slapped you and you will try to justify that White is so much better then Town A. Same parents were bashing White a week before saying it'd be a waste. Now White is apparently awesome. You over estimated the teams level which is fine, but don't preach the White is better then A. Your a 3rd level team man. You have 300 kids playing at a higher level then your White superstar. Your just paying more $ for fancy warm up suits and bags. Good luck in your next parity. Remember there's always Silver!
Thank god there was always HL and 4 years of JV back a bunch of years ago.
Minuteman Flames only used their 12 full time skaters and 1 goalie for the entire parity tournament. Get your facts straight before you slander 12 year kids. We were the only team to go 4-0 and that was with a legitimate roster
...Kids were saying a kid from CT Rangers played in the Q, not sure if it was for MFF (doubtful) or one of the other teams , even if he did play at the Q it could have been a lower level team... I'm sure someone knows...
EHF should do the right thing for the kids and make BLACK 12 teams WHITE 10 teams and SILVER 8 teams. They are not losing any money this way (30) teams. Anyone with knowledge of hockey should be able to ascess that there were about 14 teams at parity that could easily be in BLACK. Friars, thunderbirds, Prov Caps, islanders tyngs, all are black teams.
Step up EHF and do the right thing
They only made 10 teams at other div in EHF- They would complain. But 04 was legit with how close some team were. They should put 12 in but they wont
They won't do anything about it because the cheating clubs are founding members! Plus Tier 1 is a cash grab, if it were about the kids they would play parity in Sept over three weeks, everyone plays each other and then play 28-30 game schedule. It is the the only thing that the BHL does right!
They way they have it now, on top of charging 30 teams league fees for 3 divisions they get paid for 2 Parity round Tournaments! Keep it real Fed! Every dynasty fails because of arrogance
EHF should do the right thing for the kids and make BLACK 12 teams WHITE 10 teams and SILVER 8 teams. They are not losing any money this way (30) teams. Anyone with knowledge of hockey should be able to ascess that there were about 14 teams at parity that could easily be in BLACK. Friars, thunderbirds, Prov Caps, islanders tyngs, all are black teams.
Step up EHF and do the right thing
GIVE ALL THE KIDS TROPHIES!!!
Thunderbirds, Caps and Islanders Tyngs are NOT black teams.
EHF should do the right thing for the kids and make BLACK 12 teams WHITE 10 teams and SILVER 8 teams.
How about a more realistic Black 8 teams White 14 teams and Silver 8 teams because that is a truer demarcation of talent, with the majority of kids being average and in the middle of the pack, a few kids above average and a few kids below average.
Black division plays each team in the Black division 5 times = 35 games
Black division plays each white division team once = 8 games
Total games 43
White division plays each team in the white division 5 times = 35 games
White Division plays each team in the Black division 1 time = 8 games
Total Games 43
Silver plays each team in the silver division 3 times
Total games 39.
South Shore Kings
Northstars
Islanders Hockey Club
Minuteman Flames
Woonsocket North Stars
Boston Jr. Eagles
Providence Jr. Friars
Greater Boston Vipers
North Shore Shamrocks
New Hampshire Jr. Monarchs
Kings win the division...Islanders win the playoffs.
Top 8 teams compete well. Last 2 teams don't win a combined total of 12 games.
Guys, let's not forget that the E9/BHL parity at 2004 was bungled last year as well, and it made for a weak E9. Things happen. I just wish they would be more aggressive moving teams mid-season between Black/White, White/Silver, or E9/BHL the way BHL moves teams from American to National.
South Shore Kings
Northstars
Islanders Hockey Club
Minuteman Flames
Woonsocket North Stars
Boston Jr. Eagles
Providence Jr. Friars
Greater Boston Vipers
North Shore Shamrocks
New Hampshire Jr. Monarchs
Kings win the division...Islanders win the playoffs.
Top 8 teams compete well. Last 2 teams don't win a combined total of 12 games.
May the fun begin.
Friars could be the weakest team in Black. Over and Under for wins is 5...
South Shore Kings
Northstars
Islanders Hockey Club
Minuteman Flames
Woonsocket North Stars
Boston Jr. Eagles
Providence Jr. Friars
Greater Boston Vipers
North Shore Shamrocks
New Hampshire Jr. Monarchs
Kings win the division...Islanders win the playoffs.
Top 8 teams compete well. Last 2 teams don't win a combined total of 12 games.
I saw the Islanders at parity and they had a couple of kids with different gear out there so I'm assuming they picked up at least a few. Couldn't tell where they were coming from though.
Parity this time of year for next year is awful!...Can we agree that the Valley League handles parity the best? However with the early movement of teams schedule can't be set at beginning of year...
IHC picked up a couple of E9 skaters and a goalie. They looked real good at parity right where they left off from last season. 1 point last season and IHC would have made a deep playoff run last season.
With the 04s why aren't we doing this in the fall when they can check and the kids that are playing as "alternates" would have conflicts with their regular team. I know, it's just about selling ice.
Although the concept of parity is a great idea, in practice it is very flawed especially when the rules of the game will shift dramatically next year. On top of the change in checking, the gamesmanship of playing with the rosters will only serve to broaden the gap. Having the team split regionally makes a lot more sense than anything else I have seen so far. As for drawing a line in the sand based on a random number (10), that's as silly as the E9 concept.