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In MA 33% of the kids don't belong in EHF Elite nor E9. In IL that number might be in the single digits.[/quote]
In reality it's 66% of Massachusetts tier 1 players do not belong.. the analytics are there for all to see. Use 2016 USA hockey annual guide... Mass has worst #'s % of players playing the game at age 15 and over compared to other districts and states.. got to think "Elite Hockey is to blame". FED and E9 battle for tier2 talent is going to make it worse. So glad to informed and to be in strong hockey community.
Metrics all out of whack
HS hockey in IL is terrible. The top kids don't bother to play Varsity anymore. The elite ones play Jr., the good ones play AAA and CSDHL. MA is fortunate that kids still want to play Prep School and Varsity Hockey. If clubs have their way, they'll destroy HS hockey in MA.
please use the correct terminology. Tier 1 and Tier 2. The Fed's definition of Tier 1 is fake.
Now that is a new one... my son plays AAA because the rink is closer... are there really AAA teams that play at rinks where it is a big Dif to get to elite team?..... okay if the only team you can make is Top Gun or Bandits and you live in Boston or western mass I get it... in that case you are more a AAA player anyway and are in the right place... if a kid lives in mass and is a solid EHF Elite player there is a program you can get to.
You act like player movement has no boundries. [/quote]
Another big problem...cottage rules would fix this situation. And USA hockey getting off their ass and eliminate the Mass district all together. Start implimanting their power as the sports governing body.. Make districts, leagues and teams falling in line w. USA Hockey norms and values or access to sectionals, regionals or nationals is at risk.
E9 is not there yet.. will take a few years but the league has potential to overtake Eastern Hockey Federation as the top development league in New England. E9's gem is their Boston Hockey League and there 3 bids in each E9 division. These parody spots will enable new Boston Hockey League teams to recruit players that they would not be able to ger access to going forward in the Fed's "old boy club"... they set the rules and now the teams have options. For me I dont care.. both leagues are making big mistakes. The money is there but the talent and coaching is not.
Sad but true
Vipers are trying to make amends also and get back to the " league". It was wrong what happened to them last year. Everybody knows they are moving leagues
Fed Elite teams hold a monopoly over the rest of the Fed teams who have an "elite team" stuck in Tier 1. If I were one of these T1 clubs why would I accept the status quo? Im basically relegated as a feeder program to the "elite tier" programs in perpetuity. EHF rewards lazy programs like Top Gun, Capitals, and Bandits who do little to develop and cannot compete with the MMFs and IHCsin most birth years. The lower Elite teams simply rely on T1 players moving up to Elite from within but mostly from other programs that cannot get to elite tier. If I were the Vipers, Shamrocks, etc, why stay in a patently unfair league. At least in the E9/BHL there is an opportunity to play into 1/3 of available slots in the Elite tier. Does the E9 have its issues? Yes. Wizards boys don't belong, travel footprint is too wide, etc. But the league has showed that it's willing to make adjustments to get it right. See Assabet Valley moving up to permanent status, see Jr Rangers given opportunity to regroup and compete in the BHL level. See play-in tournament. I say good for Vipers, Man' Flames, Northstars, and Shamrocks. These are good programs that would otherwise never get a shot by the EHF to compete in the elite tier. Not even a chance to qualify... think about that absurdity. As for the Wolverines, it's a new program that plays in an area where town participation is high, it has its fairly affluent areas, AND they are too good to play EMHL. E9 may be too high a jump for them but BHL is right up their alley for now. And who knows in 10 years... maybe they will have enough skaters to be an elite program. At the least with the E9/BHL what the Wolverines do on the ice will determine where they play in a given birth year, as opposed to some fat guys in a boardroom protecting their investment telling them "you can't play with us".
None of the teams in question, save the NorthStars, have ever been able to demonstrate the ability to field Elite programs. How many times in the last three years have they even won Tier 1 in a birth year?
The Wolverines are being run by the Michaels boys, who have shown less of ability to develop competitive teams than they did in the extremely average college playing careers. The Price program fell on their faces as an "EMHL-Type" girls program.
We need meritocracy, not entitlements. Prove you belong, THEN say you want to come up onto the big porch.
Using 06 as an example, Shamrocks, Flames, and Northstars are right where they belong in Tier 1 Black.
Those teams are right where they belong, in a competitively balanced division where none of them is dominating. They've got a number of losses and ties to the Tier I teams of elite-organization teams. The last thing the 06 elite division needs is some more automatic wins for the top five or six teams - a waste of everyone's time.
Tier 1 Fed is actually Tier 2, Get your terminology straight Fed Bozo. Enjoy your AA team.
Teams should leave: Teams are bring in players every game play game to make the playoff. If the EHF will not enforce the roster freeze rules then move to a league that will. E9/BHL
WN you must have a lot of time on your hands. You are going to be on the board too much now.
Red army USSR
What's a good number of games to know where the kids skill level is?12-14? Maybe have a weekend tourney with the bottom 2-3 elite vs the top 2-3 black tier 1, depending on what happens teams move up or down. Not to sure how difficult it is to change around the remaining games and parents egos might take a hit but I'd rather my son not be involved in blowouts winning or losing.
Every year about this time people talk about all the teams that are leaving EHF and every year they add another color coded division.... Why? Because all the teams and kids are where they should be .... also if the parents and kids want to play in the EHF Elite they go tryout for one of the teams... then when they can't make any of them they go to another team or league... some at this point complain that they can't play into the league because their kid looks good playing against weaker talent.... if you don't have a single kid that an make an EHF Elite team and you can't win the black or white Div how are you going to move up..... Oh and don't tell anyone but all the owners know this as well. they are not moving leagues so that 95% of their teams can play in the AAA div of a weaker league... sorry thems the facts
Northstars only one going to E9. Others are PHL candidates.
Here is my 2 cents:
Fed Elite/E9 Create Division of 16 Teams
EHF Black, White BHL American Create Division of 16 Teams
EHF Silver, BHL National Create Division of 16 Teams
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