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Re: PHL

This conversation happened a few months back. Look at the JWK 05/06 PHL teams played EHF Black and did fine.

Like this guy said, after Elite it's all the same.

Someone else even broke the levels down further based on MHR and Premier was right between Black and American. White has good top teams, but drops off quickly at the youth levels.

Just because you play in the EHF it doesn't mean your automatically better.

Just do some tourney research, it's pretty easy to do, and you will find matchups that happened.

Re: PHL

I'm the one who did the analysis. At the 05 level, they fall just below White (same level statistically speaking) and above Silver. The PHL was well below Black and American.

EHF Elite: 95.75
E9: 92.84
EHF T1 Black: 90.46
BHL American: 89.5
EHF T1 White: 87.81
PHL: 87.52
EHF T1 Silver: 85.43
BHL National: 84.23
SSC PWA: 86.4

Re: PHL

Thank you for doing this. Based on my sons age level only , I would agree with this 100%.
Would like to see the say that e9 winner plays ehf elite winner , to have a state champ.

Re: PHL

I remember the 07 level what was that one. Or what post was it under.

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Same analysis for the 07 level - PHL is not strong at this level

EHF Elite: 94.2 2.5
E9: 91.47 2.3
EHF T1 Black: 88.38 1.89
BHL American North: 88.12 1.10
EHF T1 White: 86.56 1.37
BHL American South: 85.72 1.23
EHF T1 Silver: 82.01 2.32
PHL Elite: 80.40 2.62
BHL National: 80.28 2.49
EMHL: 79.94 3.02

The second number is the Standard Deviation - the smaller the number, the closer in skill the teams are within that specific division.

Re: PHL

Where is the PHL Premier level in both rankings. The Elite is the lower level.

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Ooops - missed Premier for 2007. What is listed for 2005 is the Premier PHL. Here it is for 2007 - Above EHF Silver but below White and American South

84.32 2.37

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Is this really a debate to proudly say that PHL teams can compete with Silver level teams ? Or even White ??

Silver and white are kids that were on town c teams and left because they thought they were better ! Facts.

Silver has to be the lowest level of hockey east of the Mississippi! Have you seen that level of hockey ?

Re: PHL

Anon
Is this really a debate to proudly say that PHL teams can compete with Silver level teams ? Or even White ??

Silver and white are kids that were on town c teams and left because they thought they were better ! Facts.

Silver has to be the lowest level of hockey east of the Mississippi! Have you seen that level of hockey ?
No. Someone asked a question and inevitably the Tier 1 parents had to chime in and insult people in order to make themselves feel better about their bender playing glorified Town hockey. Fact of the matter is it all doesn't matter. The NE System of hockey is so flawed our local college teams dont recruit locally anymore. Sure they may find the 1 or 2 diamonds in the rough but they dont even look this way much anymore. When they do half the time its because they need to do someone a favor or bring in a kid who has a name or connections. The sad part is most of you parents think these leagues are actually helping when in reality it drives the scouts and coaches away. But unfortunately this is the world we live with now so please go back to the stupid comparisons about leagues that mean Zero.

Re: PHL

Anon
Jim
Anon
Evidence of that’s buddy? No PHL team beat any e9 team....BHL National or last place American, likely. E9, no way.

PHL is really bad competition and a ton of travel.
OK 07 CT Chiefs beat the E9 Spartans 6-5, Tied the Tier 1 Black CT Jr Rangers 3-3 and beat the T1 Silver Springfield Thunderbirds 11-0

So get of your high horse and accept the fact that Any team that doesn\'t Play EHF Elite is full of the same kids who will likely end their careers in HS and will play Beer leagues in a few short years.

07 Chiefs beat Seacoast because the Seacoast coach pulled goalie in a tie game for some reason. And they beat a T1 silver team 11-0 when the team they played had a kid in goal who never played goal before. , and only 9 skaters. The Ct Chiefs are a terrible example , especially using those batch of games.
Examples were asked for and then, as always, the Tier 1 parents like to make excuses. If the Chiefs were so bad then they would have lost all of those games by wide margins. Seacoast pulled the goalie then the coach was playing for something stupid but irregardless the the game was close. The Thunderbirds win still shows they were a better team unless the team decided not to play offense as well. Making up sad excuses just goes to show your need to justify the Fact that other teams cant possibly be good shows you are ignorant. Please move forward with your life and accept the fact that your bender is just another player in the group of future beer leagues.

Re: PHL

anon
Anon
Jim
Anon
Evidence of that’s buddy? No PHL team beat any e9 team....BHL National or last place American, likely. E9, no way.

PHL is really bad competition and a ton of travel.
OK 07 CT Chiefs beat the E9 Spartans 6-5, Tied the Tier 1 Black CT Jr Rangers 3-3 and beat the T1 Silver Springfield Thunderbirds 11-0

So get of your high horse and accept the fact that Any team that doesn\\\'t Play EHF Elite is full of the same kids who will likely end their careers in HS and will play Beer leagues in a few short years.

07 Chiefs beat Seacoast because the Seacoast coach pulled goalie in a tie game for some reason. And they beat a T1 silver team 11-0 when the team they played had a kid in goal who never played goal before. , and only 9 skaters. The Ct Chiefs are a terrible example , especially using those batch of games.
Examples were asked for and then, as always, the Tier 1 parents like to make excuses. If the Chiefs were so bad then they would have lost all of those games by wide margins. Seacoast pulled the goalie then the coach was playing for something stupid but irregardless the the game was close. The Thunderbirds win still shows they were a better team unless the team decided not to play offense as well. Making up sad excuses just goes to show your need to justify the Fact that other teams cant possibly be good shows you are ignorant. Please move forward with your life and accept the fact that your bender is just another player in the group of future beer leagues.
And that 07 Seacoast coach? Anyone know who ran that bench last year... only a loser would pull a goalie in a tie game.. Spartan owner ran that 07 squad.. PHL is fine hockey

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Simply put, PHL is a piece of crap. Good luck with anyone telling you otherwise. Save the money and just play town.

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Anon
Simply put, PHL is a piece of crap. Good luck with anyone telling you otherwise. Save the money and just play town.
And you must be a Silver parent trying to justify your benders place. IF your not playing FED Elite then what ever league you play in doesnt matter. Thousands of the same kids ending their careers in High School. So get over yourself and go play some Tball with your kid.

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Sorry if I hit a nerve. Just voicing my opinion just like you voiced yours.
And no reason to waste money in the silver or white division.
But it is “all about development”

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Anon
Sorry if I hit a nerve. Just voicing my opinion just like you voiced yours.
And no reason to waste money in the silver or white division.
But it is “all about development”
Touched a nerve? No. Just stating the obvious that Calling 9-13 years old kids pieces of crap shows a character flaw in your life. I hope your kid has a great season.

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Said the league was crap and not the kids.
He will have a great season because he is not in The PHL

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anon
Anon
Simply put, PHL is a piece of crap. Good luck with anyone telling you otherwise. Save the money and just play town.
And you must be a Silver parent trying to justify your benders place. IF your not playing FED Elite then what ever league you play in doesnt matter. Thousands of the same kids ending their careers in High School. So get over yourself and go play some Tball with your kid.
Fed Elite is the strongest league in New England but here's a reality check for you, of the 150 plus kids playing Fed Elite at each youth level, 10 or less will be playing D-I when their time comes (yes that'll be better than the 2 to 4 coming from the E9) but even for most of the Fed Elite kids, it's over after high school.