The 06 North stars tanked in the Triple A division.
The organizers put 06 jr bruins there based on thier MHR. For Jr Bruins this is a warm up tournament before they leave for Q (and spend thousands of dollars).
You all realize that the divisions are put together by the teams ranking on MHR, they're friggin kids that are having fun. Who gives a crap about E9,EHF,BHL,PHL,VHL......not the kids
Congrats to the lightening phl showing the bruins they can hang!
Congrats to North Stars and PHL 1 black 05. Beating multiple top 30 teams in mhr including terriers elite.
PHC beat 05 Terriers Tier 1 white. Terriers elite wasn't there.
This tournament was awful for the 08 Group non of the big guns in the house!:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Very strong in the 08 group. PHC and Breakers made it to the semi finals
Breaking News from my igloo outside Smithfield Municipal (AKA The Thirsty Beaver)
In the JWK '09 elite playoffs
PHC '09 Elite annihilated Assabet Patriots '09 Elite 5-0 and move on to the finals against the Islanders Elite which is happening right now.
In the AAA Playoffs, the "Elite" EC Wizards got "Edged" from the Tourney by the Maine Wild by a score of 5-3. Maine then lost the finals to The Wolfpack from Woodbridge.
I DO NOT THINK THAT WAS THE ISLANDERS ELITE TEAM. They had three games this weekend , not in that tournament. Islanders black team i believe.
Why would IHC 06 elite play is JWK when they are going to the Q? That's right...they wouldn't. It was IHC T1Black
That being said the islanders elite , terriers elite etc... should have been in Buffalo with the true competition and they were not.
Buffalo was a joke this year...
20X tougher than JWK
Not from what I saw...
06 bruins knocked out in jwk qtrs by 8 seed
And 7 seed won the division, what is your point? Some real weak teams and large pool made for lopsided schedules/parity results.
JWK set their schedule in a manner that teams played competitors with similar rankings. The idea is to not waste your time getting blown-out, or blowing-out a competitor. All clubs ever say is they want to play competitive games, nobody wants a blow-out, on either side of the game.
At the end of it all, (in most divisions) half of the field moves on to the quarters, that should be enough to eliminate lucky teams, or teams with easy schedules.
The cream rises to the top. I noticed close scores throughout a majority of the tourney.
obviously, by dividing divisions via MHR,they are ranking teams in groups with similar ability already.
And I do agree that within those groups there are still strong and weak teams. That was especially the case in the 06 Select division, where 5 teams really were below the majority of the competition and 5 teams were ranked above the majority of competition (although closer to the mean than the bottom feeders).
However, to say that they grouped teams within a division based on similar competition is a farce. I hope that someone just told you that and you were gullible enough to believe it. Just a little bit of a deep dive shows very little in support of that, or any logic being used whatsoever in their scheduling. yes teams play tournaments for competition, but if you think having success is not a goal you are just doing yourself and others a disservice. "fool me once..."
Look at the Anaheim JR Ducks who were in the top group. they flew across the country to get paired with 3 of the worst 5 teams in the tourney (by MHR). Their other game was not even against a team from the top group. If they came for competition, they are flying home disappointed.
The Spartans (maybe they are a bad example given their connections to LGS) were in the top group, and 2 of their games were against the bottom, with the other 2 against the middle to lower-middle. Nothing against similarly ranked competition within the division. They barely got into the playoffs even with what looks like a light schedule...... Given, they showed they can compete in the playoffs. Congrats to them.
and finally on the other end of the spectrum, you have the North Suburban Wings. who were near the bottom of the group. Look who they played. They faced 3 of the top 5 teams, and their other game was against one of the upper-middle teams. Hardly an advocate for playing similarly ranked teams.
I see little in support of your "playing against equal competition" theory when looking across the schedules. Wouldn't everyone be a little happier if they took the thinking out of it and just grouped each division into sub-tiers and had teams play 1 team from each sub-tier?
One last note of interest.
Which coincidentally supports LGS having some kind of an agenda within their scheduling and strongly suggests they were not looking for balance.
The top 2 ranked MHR teams within 06 select, Jr Bruins and Walpole (both BHL American teams), played all 4 of their games against opponents from the PHL. If that is not an E9/BHL agenda, I am not sure what else would be.
****! Now that I look back on the schedule it is blatant! Kudos on that call, must have been drinking too many lattes to see the obvious! Between that and the schedule for some we can see what their agenda consisted of, did Pelosi or Schumer have a relative on one of these teams??🤣🤣🤣
JWK ELITE Division Finals Participants (by league)
U16 CSDHL vs EJEPL
04 CSDHL vs E9
05 EHF T1B vs E9
06 EHF T1B vs E9
07 EHF Elite vs E9
08 EHF Elite vs USPHL
09 EHF Elite vs EHF Elite
We can agree that the select division was a horror show. The elite and aaa divisions seemed fairly even. Even the teams that went winless were competitive.
And the 05 Finals of NS vs. Spartans was cancelled at 215 today because NESV is a joke.
Why did they cancel this game?
E9 represented well in '07 elite division...Patriots in semis, Warriors in finals.
The sub 500. Bandits beat the Warriors in the finals (O7 E). So much for E9 parity
Which islander team did the Assabet Patriots beat in the 06 elite final?
If it was the Tier 1 Black team that’s 1st in the standings for 06 Black Division that would make them 0 and 5 against 5 E9 teams. “OUCH”
At least they made the finals unlike your son's team.
Your other vaunted E9 team finished 9th and the other chose to play in AAA division.
Railers lost to Jr. Devils 4-1. Islanders beat Jr. Devils 4-1...you're point is?
The point is is that they beat the teams on their schedule...all but one was ranked higher than them in tier 2 rankings and beat 3 middle tier 1 teams along the way.
It is odd they have struggled against E9 and EHF elite teams but have an 8-2 record against tier 1 teams outside of NE.
The best part of tournament was playing teams from 6 different states...not every team got so lucky.
So let me understand genius....the current 5th place EHF team (out of 10 teams) beat the current 3rd place E9 team (out of 8 teams) by a goal in the final...your point is???
Speaking of parity...genius...what does it say about the EHF if the 5th place team is sub-500? Look at teams 5 through 10...real parity...huh, Ed?