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I have been reading the posts the past few days and I thought I would share some first hand information.
I work for a large medical insurance company based in MA. My role is on the Medical Affairs team, I am an MD and provide support to our network providers on covered or expected medical services. I was on a call with the Commonwealth Department of Health and Human Services Monday afternoon. The call was led by Marylou Sudders and included Lt Gov Polito, Gov Baker did not attend the call. The call covered multiple topics and briefly included sports. The majority of the time spent talking about sports focused on a return to HS sports in the fall with some brief comments on youth sports. I will spare you the boring details but it does not seem likely Gov Baker or his team will be approving "high risk" sports for play in the fall. The recommendation that will be going out to schools will be to move fall high risk sports to the spring to preserve them and not impact kids losing a season. If a sport like soccer is moved to the spring I would not feel confident in hockey being approved. Hockey was not mentioned by name in the call, the only three sports called out by name were football, boys lacrosse and soccer. The underlying concern was creating exposure or an infection rate in kids that would impact schools being able to remain open in the fall.
I would encourage everyone to set realistic expectations for your kids this season. The kids will play hockey but I would expect a non-traditional season (Jan-May, etc) that will move into the spring. We see every medical claim that is presented for our members, COVID is very serious and do not let yourself believe that kids are immune to the impact of this virus.
I hate the fact that you sound like you're for real and in the "know"...looking forward to 6 more months of skills! At this rate, my kid is going to be very skilled, but not know how to give or receive a check. Not good for 1st year bantams.
If this will be true I wish they would just come out and say it so the parents can avoid writing big checks to teams for a full season when they will only play at most half.
WHAAAA WHAAA WHAAA!!! Someone on the dboard said something intelligent and I can't comprehend it! He must be a pompous ass!
Sorry, but I'm not going to watch your kid play in his Fortnite league. Keep the schedule to yourself.
I think you're mad bc someone may have actually posted something factual for the first time on this board. The losers on the board crack me up. We make fun of people for being serious or having an opinion that doesn't support your agenda. Face the facts people, hockey in MA will not be happening for a while. If you think youth hockey owners have a strong enough voice to influence a swift return to hockey you're delusional. If they had any influence we wouldn't be on the high risk list waiting for permission to play games. If Baker kept restaurants closed for as long as he did do you think he cares about hockey rinks? The guy probably can't skate and couldn't 3 players on the B's.
I recommend calling TG, Cyclones or Spartans begging for a spot.
So, wait, some guy comes on here that participated in a conference call with a bunch of mealy mouthed politicians, and all of a sudden the future is clear?
How many states ban hockey right now? Anyone other than MA and RI? MA Hockey has already asked Tall Deval to reconsider. USA Hockey is next.
But, even if you feel those orgs have no clout, what about when the governors of NH, CT, abundant NY call to tell him all our players are simply crossing the borders.
Politicians change their minds more often than some of you change your skivvies. No one has any idea what September looks like. Least of all the spineless public servants on this one call.
Once again, I remain confident that my kid will be playing competitive, full checking games next week, next month, and the month after that.
BTW, the MD poster never said he was male.
It sounds like he said the DHHS will be "recommending" not making the decision.
I would expect high school hockey to be pushed until January if it happens at all. Football will probably be pushed until the spring but it does bring up an interesting question as to what happens to all the players who play football and lacrosse? Highly unlikely kids will be playing two contact sports at the same time. The question then becomes what happens with non-school related leagues? Will they be given the okay to proceed? Will U16-U18 become full season if there's a chance the high school season goes bye-bye? Still a lot of questions to be answered.
If you’re a 2
Sport athlete you can’t play both.. baker =loser
Teams will just set up exhibition games in NH and CT and also go to tournaments and showcases until the regular league season can start again.
Especially in the Elite divisions people aren't just going to sit around and wait.
Would be ironic if all of a sudden TG, MFF and CJH have a geographic advantage in the EHF and travel less than the Boston teams, but in 2020 everything is upside-down so it feels like that could actually happen if things keep going in the direction they are going.
makes a lot of sense, for all other states to be open, let rinks and small business lose money and players travel to RI and NH to play hockey, and state still cant prevent the "risk" as kids will still play and have contact and go to school.
DUMB by Baker
The real irony is that for kids in the 8 and older group, I’m not so sure that the virus is any riskier than the sport itself.
Good point. Kids are at more risk of a gruesome injury while playing hockey, than being hospitalized by a virus. It all comes down to whether you want to live in a bubble or not.
Hey buddy... GFY! Take that MD and shove it straight up your candy ass!!
This makes complete sense...until all the MA, RI teams start heading to NH for games and tournaments. Rink owners and programs owners will start screaming at the revenue loss including all retail loss because of No sales tax in NH. If Hockey continues North of the border with little health impact Baker looks like a mental midget. Most politicians care about 2 things...Money for themselves and their cronies...and getting re-elected.
Mass Hockey and USA dropped the ball. They should have been lobbying the governor with data. Casinos did.
Ivy League cancelled fall sports and soon D3 college will do the same. If you think Baker will allow youth hockey, football, soccer or other “high risk” sports to play in MA you’re crazy. It is time to get your kid playing baseball or golf bc that is all you will be able to play in MA this year.
People are missing the financial component, how much revenue do casinos generate compared to youth hockey?
my neighbors kids just played in a AAU basketball tournament in CT and he said the gym was packed...multiple games going on. Some parents wearing masks others not. There's a lot more contact in hoops than hockey...how is this possible.
I'm going to assume the MD is legit and it doesn't matter unless your player is only playing VHL or SSC. EHF-E9 will simply front load schedules for the first 1/4 to 1/2 of the season so all the MA/RI teams will be playing games on the road. NAHL combine moved to CT, HNIB trying to find ice in NH, etc., so it's already happening. The youth season will start on time but we're likely to get some interesting game times as open rinks will have added pressure to come up with ice time.
Too early to call what will happen to High School sports. I could certainly see high risk fall sports moving to spring in an effort to salvage a season but I can also envision no contact sports being played under this very conservative administration. If there is a delay to the start of the HS hockey season in Massachusetts, you can bet that owners will come up some a way to take advantage perhaps offer some type of scrimmage season from Thanksgiving to Christmas to fill the void.
Again, I would encourage all of you to call and email your state reps, state senators and the governor as well. Let them know of your displeasure with what you're reading about kids sports and the upcoming school year. I have already done so but we need numbers. The governor is not likely to be moved as he is not up for election for another 2 years, but I'm sure your state reps will be motivated as they are up for election this year. If enough people call and apply pressure they are sure to get motivated and press the governor. Please call/email your elected officials!
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still you gotta try or there is ZERO chance of games. I made the call and sent an e-mail. Crickets so far (not unexpected)
Contacting your elected officials is the first. Need to apply pressure in every form. There is safety in numbers. Sitting on your behind and posting snarky remarks will not get your kid on the ice. And, more importantly, it won't get you back to what you really love, which is posting snarky comments about 07's
"Hey buddy, Baker is in his second term so he’s term limited and won’t be running again."
Is that right?
Biggy Biggy Biggy can’t you see sometimes your words just hypnotize me and I just love your flashy ways this is why they broke and you’re so paid
My oh my .... what will we ever do with kids having to play Hockey during .... the actual hockey season
It amazes me how many people think the season will happen next year.
Truly spoken like a left wing never trumper.. Leagues/Teams will be creative in figuring out expansive skill sessions coupled with front loaded games out in NH and RI until the beginning of the year. Not an optimum solution but better that succumbing to the craziness of Gov Bakers rationale. Try walking around a Home Depot with about 200 people bouncing from aisle to aisle, go to a movie or better yet find your best threads and go do some hardcore protesting side by side with some other never trumpers but kids cant play ice hockey? Protesters were not only allowed but fully encouraged. So fed up with this non sense and the folks who get to decide who gets to do what primarily based on political beliefs and or how much tax revenue can be generated.
OK realize this is a youth board so if little Johnny misses part of a squirt year its really no big deal even though parents will probably think its ruining his development. It's not and it wont matter at all 5 years from now.
The age groups that are getting screwed are the teenagers in the peak of their "draft" years for higher levels (like last year HS/Prep kids) who wont get noticed/scouted and cant turn back the clock. For youth hockey players this is nothing more than a frustrating inconvenience in the big picture.
More ski days this season.
Not one youth has died in Mass from COVID...It is not a threat...They get sick, the flu...just like any other day or any other flu..The percentages are ridiculous...Doc