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How hard is it to make “ freshman hockey “
CC conference ...
They roster 22-20 ..
As long as he does not have double blades, he is good.
All HS coaches want are club players. Show those club team colors and claim your spot.
Many club players are selfish, dangle to no end, turn the puck over and refuse to pass. They do skate pretty.
Any coach getting paid to coach HS will take the best players regardless of their youth team.
The size of the CC school is a big factor. It’s easy to be dismissive about Freshmen hockey but BCH enrolls roughly 300 freshmen and, depending on the year, 60+ will tryout for the Freshmen hockey team. A very small number may go straight to varsity but most compete for the 22-23 roster spots. Kids who might otherwise become decent high school players get cut because there’s simply not enough room. It’s eye-opening, and the experience leads some kids to return to their local high schools. Others do something different for a year and try again. The numbers make athletics at BCH tough for a lot of kids but there are some difficult life lessons in there too.
I stand by my statement.
If you have had your kid involved in club hockey and can’t make a freshman team regardless of numbers. Then you have failed as a parent.
Just another example of kids playing club hockey that have no business being there and watering down the product.
same at Hingham. 80+ kids tryout, non-club kids have no chance
So with that many kids trying out how many tryouts are their ?
Do they narrow the pool down after say the second one?
Or due they just have 3-4 tryouts and pick the team from what they manage to see ...
talking freshman team here ..
I know that their may be 1-2 kids that get picked for varsity from the pool but unless they are top end they would barely see any ice during games... a few more may make the j v team 4-6, that would leave say 53-55 kids ( if their were 60) for freshman team 2 goalies, 11-12 forwards and 7-8 D,
Pretty difficult to evaluate that many players, especially when it’s a free for all with kids trying to skate end to end, not pass and so on ...
- would it be wise to send an email or two introducing your self ( kid) that he’s planning on going their with some basic questions ...
just to be able to put a name with the face ?
At BCH, the freshmen don’t typically play JV. It’s Varsity for the select few, and the rest play on the Freshmen team. Always can be an exception, but the JV is almost exclusively sophomores and juniors. The pyramid only gets smaller. This is the brutal year because it really becomes a numbers game that is all about the openings and depth on Varsity. Others expressed taking some joy in it, but that final tryout was the worst night of the year for me. It is a very abrupt ending for some kids and good hockey players get cut. My son made it through and was fortunate to have walked away with a couple of Super 8’s. But he had some good friends (and their parents) who would’ve killed for that experience and that was tough to navigate. As far as the tryouts, I think each school handles it their on way. For BCH Freshmen it was usually 3 days, some kids moving up and down to see how they did against higher competition. There were always a lot of evaluators on the ice but I agree that it’s truly difficult to stand out in those settings. I’ll let others talk about whether you should talk to/email the coach. For what it’s worth, I never spoke a word to him until we were already into my son’s first varsity season. Even then it was never more than a hello or small talk around the rink that he initiated.
my son is entering d1 public at very competitive team. i do hear of 50-60 kids trying out even for our team. most of the freshman are picked before tryouts, maybe a few are later picked based on a strong showing, depends on depth of upperclassman . i would imagine CC kids playing varsity are negotiated before they commit to the school, rest are competing for Freshman/JV and are going because they want a private school education, right?
Exact same experience with SJP. Had friends who's kids played Islanders elite, top warriors teams not make varsity junior year. They played very well on Freshman and JV(as sophomores) teams, only to get cut due to numbers and covid screwing up the year. Sometimes it the luck of the numbers, how many spots for certain positions at the right time.
Next years freshman team at my sons CC school is 75% picked already. And the year after that (next years 8th graders) is also 75% picked as many kids are repeating 8th grade (2007's staying back). My bender is already committed to the team, has already skated with them, multiple discussions with F,JV, & V coaches. And yes, he played EHF Elite.
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Our kid repeated 8th grade and it turned out to be one of the best decisions for him, though not one to be taken lightly. Multi-sport athlete. Wasn’t just for sports, but hockey was a piece of it. Excelled as a student-athlete.
Schools are reaching out earlier, 7th/8th grader's because they want the more skilled kids/parents thinking of a private school education before they make the decision to go U14/15/ Jr hockey etc.route.
Jump at it if you dont think your kid is a 1 percenter, which they more than likely are not.
At better programs and certainly for most serious D-I h.s. teams the reason why more underclassmen don't make varsity as a 9th grader is size. The 'stay back a year' CC programs have 19 year old men (and yes, sometimes 20 year old men) playing hockey and the idea of putting most 14 year olds on the ice with them is pretty dumb.
Talked with a coach on this and he acknowledged the JV team is often a 'holding pen' for these kids until they grow.
Just went through this with my 9th grader at at D1 CC school. Have to say this is the most factual post on this board in a long time. Most have covered all the pertinent info. You didn't mention you're looking for tips but incase you are here are some of what I noticed.
- Tryouts were filmed
- Coaches do their home work. I found out just last week that a coach had reached out to my sons club team coach for feedback
- They will project out where they feel your son will fit in, so character hard work all matters
- Most coaches run skills or involved with coaching fall/spring/summer team. Find out which ones and attend or try and get involved
- Most teams have off ice training EPS for us, start going
As crazy at it seems, there is contact being made to 7th graders who fit the right profile, which is, upper level elite (top 10 percent), bigger and stronger than average, and a young 7th grader. I.E. their birthday is 2nd half of year versus first half. The idea being he/she will only be 17 when they graduate in May, so if they need to red shirt him/ her, no harm, no foul, they will be 18 when they grad.
I know there’s a lot of discussion about the repeat years, and it certainly does happen, but I’m still not sure it’s as frequent (at least at BCH) as people may believe. Just my experience and I appreciate others might have seen something different, but the repeat year was more common when an underclassman left BCH for a prep school. Even then it wasn’t always the case. My son stayed with his grade and roughly 60-70% of the varsity seniors he graduated with were also teammates on the 7th grade team. The rest came in directly to the high school in 9th grade. Perhaps some of those 9th grade entrants were repeating, but I never noticed a huge dispersion in birth years and it wasn’t talked about among the parents. The Post Graduate year or playing Juniors seemed to be the more common path for those hoping to play beyond high school. Also, transfers happen, both in and out. I can’t even count the number of goalies I saw come in and out of tryouts over the 6 years we were involved.