well thank you for the advise... not sure why the facebook thing came about or keyboard warrior, but a simple ask the rink guys to open it for your daughter and niece would have been fine. every time we play around here there only one "rink Guy" and hes on the zamboni. and yes, we've done our share of tailgate changing room. thank you again for the help. you've met every expectation i had of apparent angry hockey dads with boys that get a free show watching my kids take their shirts off. good bye.