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Re: Next Year

Anon
When do coaches start reaching out to current players about next year? If I haven’t been already approached should I be worried?
I've found it really depends on the org as well as the individual coach. One of my boy's played for an organization that didn't start handing out do***ents until the first day of tryouts had concluded, another that had a coach that didn't talk to parents/players about "next season" until 2/1 and others that would talk to parents right about now and then email the do***ents on 2/1.

I would be concerned if your player was a bottom pair or third line player and the organization typically draws well for tryouts or your team is well below .500.

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Depends on the coach, level, and organization. If your kid is not one of the kids playing minutes at the end of a game be worried. If your coach only cares about his kid and one or two other top kids be worried. If the coach doesn't take the time to talk to your kid at practice or a game and walks away be worried.
They still technically have a few weeks left before they can really say anything, but you will have to wait for them to hear back from the kids that they did reach out to about switching teams or the ones that they definitely know who's staying for next year then they will fill in the roster as needed with who's left. The majority of the teams already know what they have or the direction they are going in. Its about who you know and what you or your kid can do for them

Re: Next Year

anon
Depends on the coach, level, and organization. If your kid is not one of the kids playing minutes at the end of a game be worried. If your coach only cares about his kid and one or two other top kids be worried. If the coach doesn't take the time to talk to your kid at practice or a game and walks away be worried.
They still technically have a few weeks left before they can really say anything, but you will have to wait for them to hear back from the kids that they did reach out to about switching teams or the ones that they definitely know who's staying for next year then they will fill in the roster as needed with who's left. The majority of the teams already know what they have or the direction they are going in. Its about who you know and what you or your kid can do for them
You say this like it's the coach or org being the bad guys. Depending up on the level if a kid is at the bottom and doesn't do much for the team they probably should be cut. There are plenty of other teams to go to if they are cut.

If my kid were at the bottom and not performing I would be ready to go somewhere else also. Why do that to everyone? It's annoying to the team to have a bad player you have to play, it's bad for the kid's self esteem and probably not good for the parent either. Sometimes you have to know when to walk away. People want to force their kids onto a team they don't belong on for the 'elite' label.

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Wasn't knocking any coach or org, just giving the parent(s) signs to look for as they have to be realistic for where their kid should be and their development. Also as a coach I would take more pride in developing a "bottom" player and watching that instead of bringing in a "better" player that someone else developed for another win or two during a season

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Oh sure, a coach loves to develop players. But some kids just don't catch on and then it gets really frustrating. Not all kids are meant to be great hockey players. Parents look to blame the coach when often times the kid is just maybe in the wrong sport or isn't going to ever be a top player. Not sure what age group we're talking about either but some kids have more drive than others as well.

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Handled differently by all coaches. Rule of thumb in competitive club hockey is that the bottom 4 should be replaced/upgraded. Coaches should give these type of players heads up early in the process so they can start looking for new team. Issue is that it’s not always cut and dry until mid March. Either way if you are bottom 1/3 of team type of player you could get cut. If you are bottom 1/3 with a bad work ethic and shoot pucks in between whistles you are 100% getting cut.

Re: Next Year

Anon
When do coaches start reaching out to current players about next year? If I haven’t been already approached should I be worried?
My son was a lower level elite player for 3 years. Mite through Squirt Minor. Bottom 5 kid. Worked hard. listened well. Every year I knew there was a chance he'd get cut. My coach was clear at the end of every season that he would need to improve to make the team but he "loved his work ethic and attitude" - Fast forward to the end of his squirt minor year. Coach told us in early February to start looking for another team at a lower level, within the org or elsewhere. He didn't cut our kid yet. Just before tryout week he told us our kid wasn't going to make it. We went outside the org to a lower level teams tryout in March and made it. Been with them ever since and kid is near top of team. I think coach who cut us was right in the way he handled us.

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ExperiencedGettingCut
Anon
When do coaches start reaching out to current players about next year? If I haven’t been already approached should I be worried?
My son was a lower level elite player for 3 years. Mite through Squirt Minor. Bottom 5 kid. Worked hard. listened well. Every year I knew there was a chance he'd get cut. My coach was clear at the end of every season that he would need to improve to make the team but he "loved his work ethic and attitude" - Fast forward to the end of his squirt minor year. Coach told us in early February to start looking for another team at a lower level, within the org or elsewhere. He didn't cut our kid yet. Just before tryout week he told us our kid wasn't going to make it. We went outside the org to a lower level teams tryout in March and made it. Been with them ever since and kid is near top of team. I think coach who cut us was right in the way he handled us.
sounds like he did the right thing

On another note do parents need to let coaches know they will be going to another team? Or do they just spring that on the coach when they feel like it?

Re: Next Year

anon
ExperiencedGettingCut
Anon
When do coaches start reaching out to current players about next year? If I haven’t been already approached should I be worried?
My son was a lower level elite player for 3 years. Mite through Squirt Minor. Bottom 5 kid. Worked hard. listened well. Every year I knew there was a chance he\'d get cut. My coach was clear at the end of every season that he would need to improve to make the team but he \"loved his work ethic and attitude\" - Fast forward to the end of his squirt minor year. Coach told us in early February to start looking for another team at a lower level, within the org or elsewhere. He didn\'t cut our kid yet. Just before tryout week he told us our kid wasn\'t going to make it. We went outside the org to a lower level teams tryout in March and made it. Been with them ever since and kid is near top of team. I think coach who cut us was right in the way he handled us.
sounds like he did the right thing

On another note do parents need to let coaches know they will be going to another team? Or do they just spring that on the coach when they feel like it?
Parents with respect for the coach who also know they are leaving should tell coach now. Same for the coaches who 100% know a kid will not get a spot next season. Unfortunately things aren’t always decided right now which leaves both coaches and parents in tough spots.

Re: Next Year

Anon
anon
ExperiencedGettingCut
Anon
When do coaches start reaching out to current players about next year? If I haven’t been already approached should I be worried?
My son was a lower level elite player for 3 years. Mite through Squirt Minor. Bottom 5 kid. Worked hard. listened well. Every year I knew there was a chance he\\\\\\\'d get cut. My coach was clear at the end of every season that he would need to improve to make the team but he \\\\\\\"loved his work ethic and attitude\\\\\\\" - Fast forward to the end of his squirt minor year. Coach told us in early February to start looking for another team at a lower level, within the org or elsewhere. He didn\\\\\\\'t cut our kid yet. Just before tryout week he told us our kid wasn\\\\\\\'t going to make it. We went outside the org to a lower level teams tryout in March and made it. Been with them ever since and kid is near top of team. I think coach who cut us was right in the way he handled us.
sounds like he did the right thing

On another note do parents need to let coaches know they will be going to another team? Or do they just spring that on the coach when they feel like it?
Parents with respect for the coach who also know they are leaving should tell coach now. Same for the coaches who 100% know a kid will not get a spot next season. Unfortunately things aren’t always decided right now which leaves both coaches and parents in tough spots.
They shouldn't tell the coach because the negative attitude toward the child will be real.

Re: Next Year

anon
ExperiencedGettingCut
Anon
When do coaches start reaching out to current players about next year? If I haven’t been already approached should I be worried?
My son was a lower level elite player for 3 years. Mite through Squirt Minor. Bottom 5 kid. Worked hard. listened well. Every year I knew there was a chance he\'d get cut. My coach was clear at the end of every season that he would need to improve to make the team but he \"loved his work ethic and attitude\" - Fast forward to the end of his squirt minor year. Coach told us in early February to start looking for another team at a lower level, within the org or elsewhere. He didn\'t cut our kid yet. Just before tryout week he told us our kid wasn\'t going to make it. We went outside the org to a lower level teams tryout in March and made it. Been with them ever since and kid is near top of team. I think coach who cut us was right in the way he handled us.
sounds like he did the right thing

On another note do parents need to let coaches know they will be going to another team? Or do they just spring that on the coach when they feel like it?
Again, depends on the coach. Between my four boys, I've had this conversation a few times and some were totally cool with it while others reacted by punishing my kid. Examples both good and bad are plentiful in these scenarios. I usually went down the honest route but also regretted it on a few occasions.

Just remember, if a team is competitive, it is usually difficult for a player to make it by just showing up at tryouts. This can be one reason you hear of kids skating at another team's practice in Feb/March. The hockey world is small so keep in mind that when your kid skates at another program, his current head coach will know before he's done changing in the locker room.

Re: Next Year

anon
ExperiencedGettingCut
Anon
When do coaches start reaching out to current players about next year? If I haven’t been already approached should I be worried?
My son was a lower level elite player for 3 years. Mite through Squirt Minor. Bottom 5 kid. Worked hard. listened well. Every year I knew there was a chance he\'d get cut. My coach was clear at the end of every season that he would need to improve to make the team but he \"loved his work ethic and attitude\" - Fast forward to the end of his squirt minor year. Coach told us in early February to start looking for another team at a lower level, within the org or elsewhere. He didn\'t cut our kid yet. Just before tryout week he told us our kid wasn\'t going to make it. We went outside the org to a lower level teams tryout in March and made it. Been with them ever since and kid is near top of team. I think coach who cut us was right in the way he handled us.
sounds like he did the right thing

On another note do parents need to let coaches know they will be going to another team? Or do they just spring that on the coach when they feel like it?
I always heard not to tell until you walk out of there for the last time. I made the mistake of telling my son’s coach early to give him a chance to replace my son. Well the coach who was a very nice guy, started acting like an ass to my son including checking him at least a couple of times at practice prior to the kids being checking age. Also the coach is well over 6’ and well over 200lbs. I would advise not saying a word

Re: Next Year

Anon
anon
ExperiencedGettingCut
Anon
When do coaches start reaching out to current players about next year? If I haven’t been already approached should I be worried?
My son was a lower level elite player for 3 years. Mite through Squirt Minor. Bottom 5 kid. Worked hard. listened well. Every year I knew there was a chance he\\\'d get cut. My coach was clear at the end of every season that he would need to improve to make the team but he \\\"loved his work ethic and attitude\\\" - Fast forward to the end of his squirt minor year. Coach told us in early February to start looking for another team at a lower level, within the org or elsewhere. He didn\\\'t cut our kid yet. Just before tryout week he told us our kid wasn\\\'t going to make it. We went outside the org to a lower level teams tryout in March and made it. Been with them ever since and kid is near top of team. I think coach who cut us was right in the way he handled us.
sounds like he did the right thing

On another note do parents need to let coaches know they will be going to another team? Or do they just spring that on the coach when they feel like it?
I always heard not to tell until you walk out of there for the last time. I made the mistake of telling my son’s coach early to give him a chance to replace my son. Well the coach who was a very nice guy, started acting like an ass to my son including checking him at least a couple of times at practice prior to the kids being checking age. Also the coach is well over 6’ and well over 200lbs. I would advise not saying a word
Probably depends on the kid that leaves. If it's someone not good no one cares.

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ExperiencedGettingCut
Anon
When do coaches start reaching out to current players about next year? If I haven’t been already approached should I be worried?
My son was a lower level elite player for 3 years. Mite through Squirt Minor. Bottom 5 kid. Worked hard. listened well. Every year I knew there was a chance he'd get cut. My coach was clear at the end of every season that he would need to improve to make the team but he "loved his work ethic and attitude" - Fast forward to the end of his squirt minor year. Coach told us in early February to start looking for another team at a lower level, within the org or elsewhere. He didn't cut our kid yet. Just before tryout week he told us our kid wasn't going to make it. We went outside the org to a lower level teams tryout in March and made it. Been with them ever since and kid is near top of team. I think coach who cut us was right in the way he handled us.
Your example is very very rare.

Re: Next Year

Anon
ExperiencedGettingCut
Anon
When do coaches start reaching out to current players about next year? If I haven’t been already approached should I be worried?
My son was a lower level elite player for 3 years. Mite through Squirt Minor. Bottom 5 kid. Worked hard. listened well. Every year I knew there was a chance he\'d get cut. My coach was clear at the end of every season that he would need to improve to make the team but he \"loved his work ethic and attitude\" - Fast forward to the end of his squirt minor year. Coach told us in early February to start looking for another team at a lower level, within the org or elsewhere. He didn\'t cut our kid yet. Just before tryout week he told us our kid wasn\'t going to make it. We went outside the org to a lower level teams tryout in March and made it. Been with them ever since and kid is near top of team. I think coach who cut us was right in the way he handled us.
Your example is very very rare.
Not really. Pretty typical at the squirt elite level. Coaches know 100% of their roster before tryouts by that age. Easier to give a heads up to the ones he is letting go in that case.

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The problem is usually the delusional parents thinking their kid should be on the team when the shouldn't be.

I've also seen situations where the parent had an issue with the coach and had to leave for that reason OR kid was cut over issue with parents. Brutal.

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Very rare - kid on our team got cut after all tryouts over. Even was invited to the new team skate. Kid was better many others too, well liked, always showed up etc. It was pretty ****ty, and I have c looked at my coach the same after that. Never any indication to the family. Coach was waiting on someone else to decide or be told he had no better options. Always go to other tryouts if your player is on the bubble.

Re: Next Year

Anon
Very rare - kid on our team got cut after all tryouts over. Even was invited to the new team skate. Kid was better many others too, well liked, always showed up etc. It was pretty ****ty, and I have c looked at my coach the same after that. Never any indication to the family. Coach was waiting on someone else to decide or be told he had no better options. Always go to other tryouts if your player is on the bubble.
That is messed up.

How many kids are you allowed to have a on a team?

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I wouldn’t say worried but it’s probably an indication that your child
Isn’t good enough to
Be on the team. At this point it’s been about a year and you and the coach should know exactly where
Your kid stands if you’re being a realist.

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If you havent had a conversation yet I would be concerned. The reality is most parents if they are honest with themselves know whos got a spot and whos on the bubble and whos out. My sons coach started telling us in mid December that they want him next season. The longer you wait and dont know the better chance you have of getting shut out the doors close quick. And dont believe waiting for tryouts the teams are all filled long before that day comes

Good Luck

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My kid is one of the few first year players on a peewee team. He doesn’t get a lot of playing time this year, but he plays well when he does. Coaches haven’t said anything. I assume he has a spot next year as he’d be one of a few returners. Is this presumptuous given no one has reached out?

Re: Next Year

Anon
My kid is one of the few first year players on a peewee team. He doesn’t get a lot of playing time this year, but he plays well when he does. Coaches haven’t said anything. I assume he has a spot next year as he’d be one of a few returners. Is this presumptuous given no one has reached out?
I don’t understand what you mean?

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Kid is playing on a 2010/2011 team which is mostly 2010s, but my kid is one of a few 2011s on the team. Should I be worried that coach hasn’t said anything about next year yet?

Re: Next Year

Anon
Kid is playing on a 2010/2011 team which is mostly 2010s, but my kid is one of a few 2011s on the team. Should I be worried that coach hasn’t said anything about next year yet?
No, not at all as the only 2 year pewee teams are town or PHL

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Not where we live - it is the best team in our state; they combine age groups but typically only take a couple first years; however, only one of the first years (coach’s kid) got good playing time this year. I have no idea where we stand with this club.

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Anon
Not where we live - it is the best team in our state; they combine age groups but typically only take a couple first years; however, only one of the first years (coach’s kid) got good playing time this year. I have no idea where we stand with this club.
Then you’re in good shape if they took you as a first year. Give it a couple weeks